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Post by teekert »

thesuitonym wrote: post #155
nikanj wrote: post #88

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Every now and then some phone manufacturer mistakes online sentiment for actual demand and gets burned making a mini phone that won’t sell

I've been IT operations for years, and when I order laptops I sometimes do a little experiment. If I ask people if they want a 15.6" laptop or a 13" laptop, they always say 15.6. If I don't give them a choice and just start buying 13" laptops, everybody tells me how much they love the smaller laptop, and people still on the 15.6" models start looking around asking when they can get the smaller one. People don't know…

I never understood big laptops (at least for work, where you walk around with them), there's always a screen to plug into.

At home, ok, at the kitchen table it can be handy to have some more real-estate, but again just for "light work" and entertainment I'd say.

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Post by teekert »

Wistar wrote: post #130
hxtk wrote: post #116

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iPhone had the 12 and 13 mini, but they didn't sell, so there was no iPhone 14 mini and hasn't been one since. That was a 5.4" display.

I cherish my iPhone 12 Mini and treat it with great care as it is the form factor I want and I want it to last as long as possible.

Same here. Battery is a bit bad though. But I carry a battery pack. I do notice the charging port is also getting worse recently. I don't know what I'll buy after this...

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Post by lproven »

aerique wrote: post #267
thesuitonym wrote: post #155

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I've been IT operations for years, and when I order laptops I sometimes do a little experiment. If I ask people if they want a 15.6" laptop or a 13" laptop, they always say 15.6. If I don't give them a choice and just start buying 13" laptops, everybody tells me how much they love the smaller laptop, and people still on the 15.6" models start looking around asking when they can get the smaller one. People don't know…

My eyes want a 19" laptop these days.

Exactly. I rather miss the 15.6" Toshiba Satellite Pro A300 I had when I emigrated, a decade back.

It wasn't very portable, no, but around the house, it was great. Good sized full-travel keyboard, numeric keypad, lots of ports, and a nice big clear comfortable eye-friendly screen. Two SATA bays, so I could have the affordable combination (a dozen years ago) of a small fast SSD for the OS and a huge big cheap HDD for the data. Tiny trackpad, but I used a mouse.

There is a 17" classic Thinkpad before they went to nasty thin fashion-follower keyboards, but they only seem to be available in the USA and even given my fondness for old Thinkpads, I am not willing to pay £1000 for a second-hand decade-old one.

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Post by nebula8804 »

m4rtink wrote: post #196
nebula8804 wrote: post #163

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>Ruthless monopoly building on both Google and Apple side IMHO. Microsoft spent a lot of money and resources trying to compete and failed. Android/Apple just started early enough and by 2012 it was too late as most consumers have decided. To enter this market you have to be truly unique or else you are just copying the competitor and why would users switch if they are happy enough? Is that really a monopoly if you ha…

Consumers decided - and Google also decided to ban manufacturers from building phones with another OS or they loose access to Google Play store and Google apps on the lucrative Android phones they also manufacture: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/07/googles-iron-grip-on... (the article is from 2013 but was updated in 2018) So no manufacturer that already builds Android phones will make an alternative OS phone fo…

Why haven't all the manufacturers filed a counter suit or otherwise work to pressure Google and cause them grief? They are all suffering so they should all work to reduce that suffering no? Only thing I can think of is that some manufacturers are doing just fine in this arrangement so there is no motivation to upend the apple cart.

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Post by nebula8804 »

ux266478 wrote: post #221
nebula8804 wrote: post #185

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Darn well thats a damn shame. The phone compromises so much "nice to have" features to get to the supposed "privacy respecting" label. Its a shame they didn't actually go all the way. Seems like then all we really have in terms of communication devices is the BeTrusted platform (Precursor communication device)

The Precursor greatly interests me. Do you have personal experience with it?

I have used it at events and it looks quite solid but is really niche. Still my mind loves the idea that it exists.
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