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My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#271
Sorry for your loss, but this experience is not universal in Toronto. I was visiting my (sick) older brother about a year ago when he woke me up calling out about chest pain. I called an ambulance and they were there within about 10 minutes and saved his life, for which me and my family are so very grateful. Had he been visiting me here in Ohio when he had his heart attack, the results may not have been as good.

https://fox8.com/news/i-team/i-team-more-people-waiting-30-m...

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#273
post #83

I feel this, but in reverse. My son could be dead, but he’s not. He was born on the floor of a trailer park apartment, not breathing. His birth mother’s partner called 911, who dispatched an ambulance. All rescue units for his zone were already busy. An ambulance returning from the nearby hospital to another zone heard the call over the radio and happened to be passing by. The hospital was expecting a DOA, but the pa…

Ex-paramedic here. Happy to here your son is fine.

But either you mistold the story, or the paramedics made a mistake: ambulances are not supposed to transport a dead person - the paramedics are first to resuscitate and stabilize the patient, and only then initiate transportation.

(I understand you may not care, because the outcome of their action incidentally was one you like.)

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Well you clearly haven't looked into the opioid crisis. > Wuh wuh. Yes, I have not heard of the endocrinologists who perpetrated the opioid crisis in Canada .

You keep making weird arguments. > I am yet to hear of a conspiracy where the doctor makes more money when their patients die. This was a statement without qualifiers, and when someone has made a strong response to it, you now introduce the qualifier "endocrinologists...in canada"

Yes, the qualifier is introduced because… we are talking about a Canadian physician. Why would you mention a totally different nation?

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#276

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if she's willing to destroy evidence to avoid criticism, > ts her willingness to lie in the face of failure. This was not presented in the original post. My question was, why is alleged research misconduct a disqualification? Also a panel of this person's peers decided she merited reinstatement. > If a patient of hers dies or starts to decline, she could falsify cause. Not something that is happening in outpatient…

There's plenty of chances for misdiagnosis in outpatient endocrinology. If she misses or delays a thyroid cancer diagnosis, or doesn't follow up with a patient at risk, etc, and then lies to cover it up. I answered your question clearly: research misconduct and her reasoning for it indicates a willingness to lie that should not be allowed in a high trust field such as medicine. She has been banned from receiving Cana…

I can see you think you are correct and aren’t really engaging with my arguments- fine.

The original post gave no reasons for not liking the person, and then said she had this research thing. If someone looked into your past, what would they find?

I see your point about morality, but that has very little to do with essentially following algorithms all day.

Had the OP said something related to medicine vs feeling bad vibes, we’d be in a different position.

admit when you’re wrong - holy ad hominem, Batman

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#277
First of all, Jenn, I'm very sorry about your father's passing.

The scheduler gave your family the correct instruction to wait for the ambulance car to arrive.

There is something called the "rescue chain", which begins with first aiders (standers by) who are expected to take first action, then hand over to paramedics upon their arrival, who in turn provide professional emergency care and transport the patient - once stable - to a hospital, again handing over the patient to an ER/stationary care.

Instead of "just waiting", next of kin are normally advised to start resuscitation procedures according to the algorithm recommended by the Red Cross or CHA

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiopulmonary_resuscitation

* https://www.redcross.org/take-a-class/cpr/performing-cpr/cpr...

* https://www.mayoclinic.org/first-aid/first-aid-cpr/basics/ar...

All kind of bad things can happen when transporting a critically ill person in a private car, notably accidents caused by a shaking, stressed and overwhelmed driver (e.g. a relative) ignoring traffic lights actual traffic and sometimes buildings. Ambulances have medication onboard as well as qualified staff, and they are only supposed to live once a patient is deemed stable.

In case an ambulance is very far away, the scheduler can also be asked to send a volunteer semi-professional or professional aider e.g. a medic living in the neighborhood or a Red Cross paramedic volunteer, to walk over and bridge the time.

Once, one of my co-workers died in the office (in Switzerland), which was right next to a hospital, despite two dedicated colleagues calling for help and administering CPR/first aid (I was at home in the shower when it happened). It can happen that all cars are somewhere else, or all emergency medical staff is already dealing with emergencies. In this case, the ambulance arrived after more than 40 minutes, which triggered a routine investigation by the attorney general.

To all readers: in case you have never taken a First Aid course, now it is the time to register for one. They are typically offered free of charge, and you may regret one day not to follow this advice now in case you are thrown into a situation such as standing next to a loved one of yours who collapses.

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

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post #83

I feel this, but in reverse. My son could be dead, but he’s not. He was born on the floor of a trailer park apartment, not breathing. His birth mother’s partner called 911, who dispatched an ambulance. All rescue units for his zone were already busy. An ambulance returning from the nearby hospital to another zone heard the call over the radio and happened to be passing by. The hospital was expecting a DOA, but the pa…

This must have happened within seconds otherwise he must have been breathing almost imperceptibly, right? Otherwise how could his brain still survive?

Re: My dad could still be alive, but he's not

#280
I was floored when watching the recent documentary about the Grenfell fire that residents who called 911 were told to stay put and if they needed to evacuate a fireman will come.

These poor people, inside an inferno, losing their last chance to escape, because they listened to the official state policy. An animal knows to run from a burning barn but here we are, trained to ignore that instinct.

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