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Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by ttz »

strombofulous wrote: post #267
TriangleEdge wrote: post #260

This reminds me of the movie 300 where an army shows up with potters and other tradesmen, while the army of Sparta were all soldiers. Opinion: as an expat, I'm not sure who would join the CAF nowadays. Not much to be proud of in my opinion. Without exaggerating, not a single person I grew up with is doing well, and I had to leave Canada to start my family.

> not a single person I grew up with is doing well What is happening in Canada to cause this?

root cause is believing anecdotes of people on the internet

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by I-M-S »

carlosjobim wrote: post #156
jszymborski wrote: post #126

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Much as is the case in the US and Canada, families and friends transcend the borders of Ukraine and Russia. That wasn't enough to stop the Russian invasion of Ukraine. While Americans enjoy much, much broader freedoms of expression (albeit that's also under great threat), I wouldn't imagine the reaction from our American "brothers" would be much different from Russian when it invaded its "brother". Your use of "broth…

I guess we'll find out when it happens (or not happens). The only realistic scenario I can think of when your American "brothers" would go to war across the border is if the Canadian government commences war against its own population. Then I could see the US government intervening, or US fighters independent from the government taking sides in Canada.

And where do you think the idea the Canadian government is waging war against its own population will come from?

The problem is that most people think of these scenarios as something that happens overnight, when in reality consent is manufactured over time. There's a reason you don't microwave a frog.

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Post by TriangleEdge »

rvba wrote: post #269
TriangleEdge wrote: post #260

This reminds me of the movie 300 where an army shows up with potters and other tradesmen, while the army of Sparta were all soldiers. Opinion: as an expat, I'm not sure who would join the CAF nowadays. Not much to be proud of in my opinion. Without exaggerating, not a single person I grew up with is doing well, and I had to leave Canada to start my family.

> as an expat How can we know that you arent a russian propaganda account, who created a legend that you live outside of Canada, when in reality you never lived there and your lies that "Canada military bad" are just written from Moscow?

I suppose it's not possible to know nowadays given LLMs and all.

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by [deleted] »

TriangleEdge wrote: post #260

This reminds me of the movie 300 where an army shows up with potters and other tradesmen, while the army of Sparta were all soldiers. Opinion: as an expat, I'm not sure who would join the CAF nowadays. Not much to be proud of in my opinion. Without exaggerating, not a single person I grew up with is doing well, and I had to leave Canada to start my family.

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Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by nradov »

mrguyorama wrote: post #253
nradov wrote: post #226

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What a silly question. I don't need to provide you any evidence. Just walk down to your local recruiting office and ask. If you tell them that you want to enlist but will only do so if they guarantee a truck driver MOS on your contact then they'll absolutely take you unless they've already hit their limit for that fiscal year. HN is so weird sometimes. Like half the users seem to be aggressively ignorant of stuff tha…

>If you tell them that you want to enlist but will only do so if they guarantee a truck driver MOS on your contact then they'll absolutely take you unless they've already hit their limit for that fiscal year. (I think this is right, I've heard conflicting info about what recruiters can promise you) If they are official military, then the truck driver HAS been through Basic and knows the absolute minimum of combat. Yo…

Get it in writing and check the fine print. A recruiter might lie but an enlistment contract is exactly that: a legally enforceable agreement. If the contract guarantees a particular MOS and the recruit doesn't get it for whatever reason then they have the option to take a discharge instead of being reclassed.

Even without a written guarantee, in volunteer forces the senior officers will generally get rid of new recruits who decide they don't want to be there instead of forcing them into a different job. Especially for the combat jobs where even training can be deadly. Better to give them discharge papers and GTFO rather than wasting money training someone who's going to be a poor performer with constant morale and discipline problems.

(Of course if there's ever another world war and conscription is reinstated then the rules will go out the window. But that's not what we're discussing here.)

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by TriangleEdge »

strombofulous wrote: post #267
TriangleEdge wrote: post #260

This reminds me of the movie 300 where an army shows up with potters and other tradesmen, while the army of Sparta were all soldiers. Opinion: as an expat, I'm not sure who would join the CAF nowadays. Not much to be proud of in my opinion. Without exaggerating, not a single person I grew up with is doing well, and I had to leave Canada to start my family.

> not a single person I grew up with is doing well What is happening in Canada to cause this?

I suppose "doing well" isn't a very good metric. It's based on my feelings and experiences having traveled to 5 wealthy countries and chatting with people there. Even in third world countries, like Brazil, I didn't see people dying of opioid overdoses everywhere downtown.

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Post by testing22321 »

ahmeneeroe-v2 wrote: post #30
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #22

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Canada right now is trying to figure out if the greatest their to their security is China or the USA. They can tie their boat to either against the other, but they can't be allies with both.

Real question: Is any serious person advocating Canada abandon the West for China? What's their analysis here? If anyone has an article I can read I would love to do that.

Given the shit show that is trump tarries and uncertainty, and the threats of 51st state, plenty of Canadians are very happy to turn away from the USA.

I’d be immensely happy if the Chinese EV tarries were scrapped. Given how the us has been behaving, why should we support us automakers.

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Post by rayiner »

triceratops wrote: post #143
palmotea wrote: post #125

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> The difference here is presumably for the last hundred years, ending last November, there was simply no chance of a invasion of Canada. The chance of Canada being invaded didn't change at all in November. The amount of hyperbole about Trump has been utterly astounding, and fears of an Canadian invasion are an instance of that. And my sense is that actually a fair amount of the bad stuff Trump has done (though defin…

> Democrats fear and loathe him, so they pursued all kinds of legal actions against him while he was out of office So maybe he should'nt've have broken laws. Not give them anything to pursue.

That would be a valid argument if the prosecutions against Trump didn’t involve legal gymnastics like the ones Google uses to make all their profits appear to have been earned in Ireland: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/trump-was-convicted-...

Re: Canadian military will rely on public servants to boost its ranks by 300k

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Post by rogerrogerr »

mig39 wrote: post #262
rogerrogerr wrote: post #173

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Yep - the US is bad at fighting insurgencies, but a state military? Over in days. This does not materially change between Canada’s current military vs 5x their current military. But fighting pissed-off indigenous Canadians? I wouldn’t sign up for that part. None of this is relevant because the US does not want to own Canada.

> None of this is relevant because the US does not want to own Canada. Why does your president keep saying the opposite?

He says stuff. If you haven’t figured out by now that the stuff he says and the stuff he does are different, I dunno what to tell you.
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