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Re: Apple reports fourth quarter results

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Post by sunaurus »

j1elo wrote: post #105
haunter wrote: post #11

Kind of telling that 1, the iPhone outsells every other category by 5-7x ratio, and the Mac (which includes everything from Macbooks to Mac Minis to iMacs) barely sells more than the iPad. 2, Services (iCloud, apps, music, TV shows etc.) now bigger than every other category, except the iPhone, combined Basically 76% of the sales are iPhones and Services (millions) iPhone $209,586 Mac $33,708 iPad $28,023 Wearables, H…

I really don't get how people do research work (like finding good flight tickets, or comparing hotels to stay in for a trip) without a computer. I really cannot stand seeing websites in a small screen without the ability to quickly open 4 browser windows with 4 tabs each for different combinations of dates, for example.

I hate submitting any kind of form on any website from my phone, because I can't open dev tools and see if there were any errors in the response which were invisible in the UI.

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Post by throwaway31131 »

leptons wrote: post #242
olyjohn wrote: post #178

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Want me to tell you about my 3 failed MacBook Pro logic boards? Hate to say it, but Macs aren't any better. I've worked on literally thousands of laptops, and you win some, and you lose some. There are some shitty Dells, and some good Dells, and there are some shitty MacBooks and some good MacBooks. I even have a couple of old Dells that are about 10 years old now. Working just fine too.

Only 3? We had eight failed MBP motherboards before Apple finally told us the next replacement would cost us $1200. We joined a class action lawsuit against Apple and won. My wife refuses to give Apple another dollar, and she owns Apple stock.

Which lawsuit was that?

I think it’s been a while since there was a MBP MLB lawsuit but maybe I’m forgetting about one.

This is the last one I recall.

“Apple faces class-action lawsuit over 2011 MacBook Pro GPU issues“

https://9to5mac.com/2014/10/28/apple-class-action-lawsuit-20...

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Post by koolba »

shermantanktop wrote: post #226
embedding-shape wrote: post #165

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That's the thing for us whose life is mostly "by the seat of their pants", there really isn't. You book the tickets, you go there, see what you feel like doing, do those things, and go home. Done that for all my travels more or less, never felt like I missed anything and had a blast most of the times. I still do everything important on a computer and wouldn't book the flight on a smartphone, but that probably says mo…

I admire your style, and envy it, at least a little. But I couldn’t do it, especially with the presence of which I’ll call “expectations of planning” in my immediate circle. Some people want the best possible experience and can’t be confident they aren’t missing out unless they have done the research.

No level of planning can match the raw joy of spontaneously enjoying something with like minded friends.

> Some people want the best possible experience and can’t be confident they aren’t missing out unless they have done the research.

The majority of such people perform what I call “checkbox vacationing”. It’s not about actually enjoying any particular thing, it’s just about checking the boxes of whatever some online list says is the current “best XYZ”.

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Post by gessha »

Razengan wrote: post #212
j1elo wrote: post #105

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I really don't get how people do research work (like finding good flight tickets, or comparing hotels to stay in for a trip) without a computer. I really cannot stand seeing websites in a small screen without the ability to quickly open 4 browser windows with 4 tabs each for different combinations of dates, for example.

> I really don't get how people do research work … without a computer People used to do it in their heads. Einstein, Tolkien, Hawking, Newton, Shakespeare, Euclid, Archimedes. With paper being an storage medium they occasionally saved to :) > (like finding good flight tickets, or comparing hotels to stay in for a trip) Heck I was doing EXACTLY that on an iPhone while loafing at a friend's just now, because I wanted t…

Socrates famously frowned upon the written medium and preferred his memories for storage

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Post by gcanyon »

moduspol wrote: post #114
j1elo wrote: post #105

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I really don't get how people do research work (like finding good flight tickets, or comparing hotels to stay in for a trip) without a computer. I really cannot stand seeing websites in a small screen without the ability to quickly open 4 browser windows with 4 tabs each for different combinations of dates, for example.

I have literally watched my in-laws plan and book a vacation from their smartphones. From their house, where they also have computers. They're quite different from my side of the family, but the biggest thing is that they've never been big planners. Everything is by the seat of their pants. If you're like that, you're probably OK with taking one of the first three SEO-optimized search results and making it work. Mean…

There's a book out there (I don't remember the author, title, or anything really) written by a guy who traveled around the world, over several years, in a VW bus(?). The thing that struck me is, he got home within a couple days of when he planned to, before he even took off. The entire trip was planned.

Re: Apple reports fourth quarter results

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Post by gessha »

827a wrote: post #35
haunter wrote: post #11

Kind of telling that 1, the iPhone outsells every other category by 5-7x ratio, and the Mac (which includes everything from Macbooks to Mac Minis to iMacs) barely sells more than the iPad. 2, Services (iCloud, apps, music, TV shows etc.) now bigger than every other category, except the iPhone, combined Basically 76% of the sales are iPhones and Services (millions) iPhone $209,586 Mac $33,708 iPad $28,023 Wearables, H…

> Next 5 years or so (or even less) both the iPad and the Wearables, Home and Accessories category will overtake the sales of Macs. Are we reading the same quarterly report? Wearables/Home/Accessories is slightly higher than the Mac, yes, but its a category that has been trending poorly for Apple for ~18 months now IIRC, and that hasn't gotten better this quarter (9.04B->9.01B 3mo YoY). There's no foreseeable future…

Yeah, I agree. I have an Apple Watch 5 and I don’t really look at new models if they don’t have new sensors. Even then, I wait to see if they are useful. AirPods get replaced if they get broken maybe. I’m still rocking my 2018 iPad and I don’t feel like I need an updated one. iPhone gets replaced once they become unsupported. I’m still deciding if I want to commit to the ecosystem by getting a Mac or get a Framework.

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Post by javier2 »

jdross wrote: post #115
moduspol wrote: post #114

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I have literally watched my in-laws plan and book a vacation from their smartphones. From their house, where they also have computers. They're quite different from my side of the family, but the biggest thing is that they've never been big planners. Everything is by the seat of their pants. If you're like that, you're probably OK with taking one of the first three SEO-optimized search results and making it work. Mean…

How often do you get a meaningfully better result than google.com/flights? Outside of booking with points, it's all basically the same thing and I can book on google on my phone in under a minute

This. its enough to check a couple of alternatives, the prices are nearly the same most of the time. If you can move dates for your travel, that is far more impactful, like if you have the option to avoid major holidays or such. Note that I am not in the US, and I do agree that it is much better to do research on my desktop!

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Post by andyferris »

lurking_swe wrote: post #227
koyote wrote: post #166

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I could go into detail how being able to have a dozen tabs open almost always gives a better result than simply picking the first flight on google flights. But let's assume there's no difference: Do you really want to use a phone's on-screen keyboard to type in your family's passport details, address, then credit card numbers, then review all of this to ensure your $2000 purchase doesn't have any typos or mistakes? I…

just for the record, I completely agree that _research_ is way easier on a computer. But i take issue with this concern: > Do you really want to use a phone's on-screen keyboard to type in your family's passport details, address, then credit card numbers, then review all of this to ensure your $2000 purchase doesn't have any typos or mistakes? My iphone (safari) auto-fills almost all of those details. It’s also likel…

My personal experience is that Chrome on my PC is more reliable/predictable than Safari on my iPad.

Now I am wondering if this is Safari/Chrome thing and not a mobile/desktop thing.

Certainly if the autofill doesn't work and I do need to to type it in, the PC is way easier. I'm thinking international travel for 5 people - all my responsibility and I don't want to get held up half way across the world when no one has slept for a day, work visas beign contingent on correctness, etc.

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Post by sometimes_all »

gcanyon wrote: post #276
moduspol wrote: post #114

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I have literally watched my in-laws plan and book a vacation from their smartphones. From their house, where they also have computers. They're quite different from my side of the family, but the biggest thing is that they've never been big planners. Everything is by the seat of their pants. If you're like that, you're probably OK with taking one of the first three SEO-optimized search results and making it work. Mean…

There's a book out there (I don't remember the author, title, or anything really) written by a guy who traveled around the world, over several years, in a VW bus(?). The thing that struck me is, he got home within a couple days of when he planned to, before he even took off. The entire trip was planned.

I find it so charming that people from the first world just assume that unplanned trips are the norm, and coming back as per expectation is can sometimes be surprising (even if it's a very long trip).

Do take a look at what people from developing countries go through - sometimes you cannot even get a visa without all your lodging booked and a confirmed return flight ticket.

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