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AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Is there any streaming option with non dogshit quality?

Criterion is an extra layer below dogshit. Kanopy, which is free with your library card, blows it out of the water.

> free with your library card

Maybe with yours. My local library's offerings are abysmal.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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So companies go there to die

Another way to look at it: When a companies bubble bursts, when people realise that it is just a note taking app (or whatever), and that its never going to grow 10x again, VC investors want shot of it. Without a constant stream of new investment, the company simply can't afford to be loaded up with SV staff producing features that nobody will pay for. Bending Spoons change the business model to 'normal business'. The…

Nono, this is a pro-scammer point of view. They absolutely go for a minimal upkeep, maximum dark patterns strategy.

It's not about sustainable business, they are literally enshittifiers. I know quite a few employees, they literally debate whether a UX change to make a X to close a payment modal almost invisible is "too evil or not" and they go with it anyway.

So, we're not kind to companies who ruin their product for a short-term revenue increase then why all this positive spin for a company whose business model is to do exactly and only that?

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Was it really a scam then? Or just extremely overpriced?

My apologies, I should've been more clear! The scam was that this service is actually free provided by AOL. The grandparents shouldn't have ever been charged, they just ended up finding scammers that actually knew how to fix the issue.

I think what folks are getting at is that it might not have been an outright scam. Just a third-party company that charged for its help desk. Many folks are willing pay for services like email that they could have otherwise gotten for free. The "scam" may have been more on the part of Google which elevates paid links to the top of the search results.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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It's only easy to miss if you're irresponsible. Having enough (some would say, "more than enough") money makes being irresponsible less painful.

The way you are using irresponsible is perverse. e.g. Being Irresponsible in this context would be remortgaging your house, while unemployed and using all the money to buy gadgets. Forgetting that you have a small amount deducted for a service you are no longer using, isn't. It is minor oversight. The way that language is abused by people when it comes to these sorts of subjects is bordering on semantic manipulation.…

It's a difference of degree, not kind. 30 bucks thrown into a corporate black hole instead of a handful of meals, or gas for a day of driving delivery, or medicine. An hour or two or three of a low-income earner's productivity, every month, possibly for years, because... you didn't care to spend 5 minutes looking at your bank or credit card statement? Come on.

But, of course, no one can tell off the comfortable class. It's "perverse" and "abuse" and "deceit" and "manipulation". eyeroll

If the subject were as minor as you say, you wouldn't be trotting out that kind of characterization. I hit a nerve.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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> They bought Komoot, laid off 80% of the staff, but they still did a major redesign This sounds like "doing a major redesign" would be something positive. I'm a paying customer since ages and use the app on daily basis. The new design adds nothing except confusion, at the same time they broke the app on my smartwatch. I'm pretty much thinking about switching apps because I don't see myself buying a new watch just be…

>Some companies would be better off with less bored designers. The comment you are replying to says they laid off 80% of them!

They laid off the original staff.

Bending Spoons has own teams taking care of the acquired companies. I read about it here a while ago. I am pretty sure the re-design was done by one of those teams. It's pretty close to the new design of MeetUp. I am talking about those ppl.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Verizon handed their email service over to AOL some years ago. I wonder if this will be the end for my unused @verizon.com account.

AOL mail and Verizon mail had both been migrated to the yahoo mail backend when I left the company. This one kind of feels like a weird acquisition to me as that’s the story for a lot of AOL properties these days - a differently branded front end to the same services as their Yahoo counterpart. It would surely be much more costly to run AOL outside Yahoo as now you need to spread the costs of maintaining all that acr…

Ah, yes, you are correct, I had forgotten it was Yahoo that took over Verizon mail.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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Email was often used as a primary key on older websites

Originally websites had usernames and passwords. Username was used as a primary key (such as this website). Using the email address directly as the username/key is a more modern trend (mid-late 00s). I believe this coincided with the dominance of gmail where people would have a forever email address. Before that, your email address would regularly change if you moved ISPs/schools/jobs so it wasn't a good identifier.

Recently i found that several services I “signed into with Google” allow neither converting to a password nor binding to a different Google account. B2b SaaS apps in fact.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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I like Evernote but it just isn’t worth $130 / year for me. Last year they had a sale for $50 (or was it $60) for a year and I paid for that. If I can’t renew at that I’ll have to figure out how to migrate to Obsidian.

Wait a sec — you're saying you'll take the time and trouble to "... figure out how to migrate to Obsidian" rather than pay the $70-$80 renewal premium over what you paid last year? Let's do a thought experiment. Suppose you spend a total of 3 hours from start to finish doing the migration. That's the equivalent of being paid $25/hour in lieu of paying the Evernote full price renewal as opposed to what you paid on sal…

Maybe, but you don't have to move that far down the salary scale for $25/hour post-tax to start looking fairly attractive. In the US, median weekly personal income is in the $1200 range, so assuming 40 hour work weeks, $30/hour, or a bit under $26/hour after federal income tax if you live in a state with 0% income tax.

Re: AOL to be sold to Bending Spoons for $1.5B

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They've kept the product alive but I don't know that it's terribly improved... I've been a paid user since 2008. Switching would be painful for me given how familiar I am with it but I came close this last year when it stopped letting me stay logged in on multiple Mac computers at the same time...

I was with Evernote since 07, and found it a doddle to ditch. Export the lot, bring into Apple Notes or Bear. Or a combination of the two. Sorted.

Apple Notes crashes when I try to open it after importing my Evernote notes.
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