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Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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My understanding is that reactor and waste pools are some of the least radioactive environments as they are constantly monitored for leakage.

Possibly, but I wouldn't think "least radioactive environments in a nuclear reactor" is a low bar. I don't know, though.

I remember hearing somewhere that the biggest risk from swimming in a live reactor's coolant pool would be lead poisoning caused by the DoE guards and their lack of a sense of humour

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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The Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board has a great YouTube channel where they carefully analyze similar accidents. https://www.youtube.com/@USCSB/videos Not necessarily nuclear (since chemical and industrial accidents are much, muhc more likely), but highly recommended if you're interested in such incidents and their causes.

I loce their videos, too, but as far as I know the current US administration will shut them down at the end of this year. [0] [1]

But just now I read that a (sharply reduced) budget had passed the house? [2] does anyone know what the current state is?

[0]: https://www.csb.gov/assets/1/6/csb_cj_2026.pdf

[1]: https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/only-federal-agency-that-i...

[2]: https://www.safetyandhealthmagazine.com/articles/27090-house...

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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300 CPM in hair after decontamination is a massive red flag. If this is from systemic circulation, could be GBq-level total body activity. The non-emergency classification is bureaucratic nonsense. This is an internal contamination event with unknown but potentially severe consequences.

There is no circulation in hair, hair is dead, and it is produced slowly. Nothing about your commentary passes basic scrutiny.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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unfortunately i was surprised that even the generic is kinda pricey to take every day. At the smallest available dose it was 5 usd a pill (last i checked in China)

I just checked my text from Walmart last week saying my Tadalafil was ready for pickup. It was literally $25.60 for a 30 day supply of 10mg and I currently don't have insurance. 100% out of pocket.

interesting. thanks for letting me know. in Taiwan it was also not cheap (and requires a prescription and doctor visit) Guess Ill keep looking around. id sort of given up using it regularly

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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You're being unnecessarily attacked for what is largely a casual forum where people make casual comments and speculation all of the time. Further, your reasoning is biased towards safety (rather than risk), which seems completely sane.

Agreed. These violent reactions aren’t unusual for HN but they are unnecessary and acutely disappointing.

Skepticism and sarcasm are not violence.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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300 CPM in hair after decontamination is a massive red flag. If this is from systemic circulation, could be GBq-level total body activity. The non-emergency classification is bureaucratic nonsense. This is an internal contamination event with unknown but potentially severe consequences.

Litvinenko had about 10 MBq in his body and died in 3 weeks. This might be 500+ MBq (0.5 GBq). Yeah it's a different isotope, but clearly not a "non-emergency" EDIT: (after 1 hr) - Litvinenko dose was 4GBq - I was wrong by 3 orders of magnitude. My bad

External contamination is not comparable to internal, at all. Bq is a terrible unit to understand radioactive danger. Doses are usually detected in Grey, then converted into Sievert because Grey didn't take into account the difference between Alpha radiation and the others. And even then, when someone is truly contaminated, we calculate effective dose per organ.

The poor guy who fell in the pool probably didn't take any Alpha ray, wasn't taking all the radiation on a specific place, and while in my country we would calculate the dose he took before sending him back to work, he would probably work again in the same nuclear sector (this isn't the case for anyone, I know someone who dive to get the radioactive/explosive/poisonous trash we put in the water in the 50s until the 90s, he now cannot work on any radioactive trash.)

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Palisades MI reactor. Currently shut down and de-fueled but a restart of this reactor is apparently underway, with new fuel assemblies being delivered.[1] Worker was wearing a life vest.[2] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palisades_Nuclear_Generating_S... [2] https://www.mlive.com/news/2025/10/michigan-nuclear-plant-wo...

dunno if the life vest bit comment of yours was sarcastic, but it is a funny remark for sure :-) it sounds like "guy felt down in a volcano, but fortunately, he had a life vest"

it's actually important - close to the surface, the radiation should be mostly all filtered out by the water already.

the deeper you get, the worse for you. I assume the first second was critical.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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I personally consider an area dangerous if I need to undergo radiation decontamination after entering it, continue emitting radiation after decontamination, and need to seek medical attention. Maybe the nuclear regulatory bodies have differen definitions?

Bananas emit detectable radiation, so you should probably choose different thresholds of what causes you to consider something dangerous. They will still try to decontaminate you of any radioactive materials they can scrub off as a matter of course, but 300 counts per minute, while noticeably higher than background radiation levels, is pretty benign in the grand scheme of things. The fact that you can still count ind…

CPM is so useless as a unit, it doesn't mean anything.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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post #194

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I've lived through three major nuclear incidents, and what they had in common, regardless of the political systems of the US, The Soviet Union or Japan, was not the transparency, it was the lying. It started immediately after each incident. I'm essentially pro-nuclear, I just don't trust people who run it.

You describe incidents which become political. At some point the normal rules are being ignored by those on the top of the information food chain. That says nothing about the rules of the game, but does say a lot about the people involved.

The rule-ignoring and the lying started inside the plants before anybody outside got involved. Then it just spread like cancer.

Re: A worker fell into a nuclear reactor pool

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Possibly, but I wouldn't think "least radioactive environments in a nuclear reactor" is a low bar. I don't know, though.

I remember hearing somewhere that the biggest risk from swimming in a live reactor's coolant pool would be lead poisoning caused by the DoE guards and their lack of a sense of humour

Here: https://what-if.xkcd.com/29/

> But just to be sure, I got in touch with a friend of mine who works at a research reactor, and asked him what he thought would happen to you if you tried to swim in their radiation containment pool. “In our reactor?” He thought about it for a moment. “You’d die pretty quickly, before reaching the water, from gunshot wounds.”

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