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Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by teaganga »

ozim wrote: post #266
rcarmo wrote: post #192

I stopped using Postman when it magically started connecting to a central server for… nothing useful, really. I have no idea why people would design software this way, especially a development tool that should work with any web server, under any network condition (including fully offline against localhost). Now I just have a Makefile with a bunch of curl invocations, or Python tests with requests to match against exp…

People that want to make money on their software obviously. Connecting to a license server is pretty much standard. For Postman it is annoying because it was never explicitly stated and it seemed like they are cool kids making nice helpful app. But really they are in for money. Which is not bad have to say but the way they did it is bad.

I think they started as cool kids and they changed their mind on the way. I'm using postman for a long time. I liked it, i preferred the online version, slowly slowly they started to push users towards the app, making it harder and harder first to use it without and account, then to use the online version. This is how I ended up with a heavy desktop app, when i needed something simple and easy to use.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

Despite the strength of marketing, "DIY" is sometimes more reliable than "pay fees to so-called "tech" company"" and subject oneself to possibility of telemetry, data collection, surveillance and targeted advertising. But every user is different

For recreational internet use, I use yy025 + TCP client + TLS proxy. No fees, no telemetry, no BS. I can select from a long list of TCP clients in this setup, e.g., original netcat, tcploop, tcpclient, socat, etc., as well as a variety of TLS proxies, e.g., tinyproxy+stunnel, haproxy, etc. I can modify the source of all the programs and can do more than is possible if using an "HTTP client", e.g., curl

Of course I am not testing "web apps" for a commercial enterprise. Nor do I use a so-called "modern", graphical browser. I retrieve data without a browser. Since I use HTTP every day in textmode it is "interesting"^1 to see software that somehow commercialises similar HTTP use, e.g., Postman, Burp, etc.

1. For example, https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/postman-valuation-2-bill...

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by unkn0wn_root »

I don’t personally use Postman, but at work we use .http files, which are easy to version and manage with Git. The downside is that you’re almost entirely tied to VS Code and the REST Client extension. I’m not a big fan of VS Code myself (I use Vim), so if anyone interested, I created resterm [0] - a terminal client that works with .http or .rest files and adds some extra "nice-to-have" features. I’m currently working on adding OpenAPI spec importing.

https://github.com/unkn0wn-root/resterm

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by klinch »

unkn0wn_root wrote: post #273

I don’t personally use Postman, but at work we use .http files, which are easy to version and manage with Git. The downside is that you’re almost entirely tied to VS Code and the REST Client extension. I’m not a big fan of VS Code myself (I use Vim), so if anyone interested, I created resterm [0] - a terminal client that works with .http or .rest files and adds some extra "nice-to-have" features. I’m currently workin…

+1 for .http files

Also, TIL that these are not IntelliJ-specific (that’s where I use them)

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by 12345hn6789 »

gschier wrote: post #21

This is exactly why I made Yaak [1]. It's fully offline, no telemetry, open source, and can even sync with Git. https://yaak.app

Hey Greg! Can you clarify that building from source and using in a commerical environment is permissable under the MIT license? I have built from source and yet the program is under "trial mode" currently and looks to have a 30 day ticker of doom. Is this a bug? Is there a flag missing? I cannot find any detailed instructions on setting flags or environment variables to turn this off.

Thanks!

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by array_key_first »

tharkun__ wrote: post #84
array_key_first wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't - ergo good faith. You can be an Oracle and audit your customers and develop that adversarial relationship. The idea is that that sort of thing makes you rot in the long run.

How's that been going for Oracle so far?

Pretty poorly actually, people avoid Oracle products like the plague. Nobody is buying a JVM from Oracle or buying their DB - they're using open source solutions that are both free and provide more features.

They have a lot of inerita, but that's it. If you're in Greenfield development, there is a close to 0% chance you will choose Oracle as your RDBMS.

Um, oops.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by esalman »

zaphirplane wrote: post #89
S04dKHzrKT wrote: post #32

Depending on your usage, you may not need a separate app. Jetbrains[0], Visual Studio[1] and VSCode[2] have support for http files. [0]: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/idea/http-client-in-product-c... [1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/test/http-file... [2]: https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=humao.re...

The vscore one is a plugin from some random person, to be called built in

Insert xkcd 2347 here.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by chuckadams »

kiselitza wrote: post #233

Ah, yes, the cloud-dependent tool that forces you to pay per seat and log in for any type of collaboration is down when their cloud provider is. Anyways, the folks have spoken, no need to double down. There are more than a dozen alternatives to it, and new ones are coming up. I'm helping build a new one. - Completely offline. - Gives the ability to build reusable blocks (headers, query params, etc) - Let's you docume…

Voiden looks really promising, so I installed it to get started, and here's my hot takes so far before even using it.

* The text is tiny for my old eyes. I figured there's probably a setting for it and hit Cmd-, and found there's no settings UI whatsoever. No keyboard shortcut either it seems, and no help menu either, so no searching for "keyboard" with Shift-Cmd-/

* .void files may be markdown, but no markdown editor will recognize it as such. Maybe support .void.md as well. I also couldn't find any way to edit the markdown source of a .void file from voiden, which is a bit ironic for a tool that loudly advertises the markdown format as a central feature.

* Could there be a block that expands into the full URL of the request and parameters above it (or perhaps as args)? How about another that renders as a cURL command, which would cover POST/PUT/PATCH requests nicely too. My API documentation always has cURL request examples and I detest writing them by hand.

* While I'm suggesting blocks, one that renders the response headers/body to the preceding request would also be handy. It should support a placeholder response that gets replaced when the request is actually run (and perhaps a "save" button to persist it in the markdown). Responses get long, so maybe have a max-height for the block and make it scrollable

I'm actually really excited about Voiden and hope these can be addressed. It has a similar feel to Jetbrains' .http format, but an evolutionary leap beyond it. It also feels really raw and unfinished.

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by groone »

rcarmo wrote: post #192

I stopped using Postman when it magically started connecting to a central server for… nothing useful, really. I have no idea why people would design software this way, especially a development tool that should work with any web server, under any network condition (including fully offline against localhost). Now I just have a Makefile with a bunch of curl invocations, or Python tests with requests to match against exp…

I switched to k6 the cli load test tool for its full js/ts scripting ability

Re: Postman which I thought worked locally on my computer, is down

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Post by ActorNightly »

aembleton wrote: post #241
ActorNightly wrote: post #181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only nice feature is being able to paste a url, get parsed parameters, and then edit all the things using the UI. Other then that, its same old curl.

Being able to easily switch between dev, stage and prod is useful

In terms of just issuing requests, you can do the same with either python or curl and just scrips.
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