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Post by ddxv »

Aurornis wrote: post #134
shrubble wrote: post #43

When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

> When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, WiFi routers can’t tell you where people are in the house. The routers don’t even know their own location within the house. All of those papers you see on the topic have extensive additional information being put into their models. The routers don’t magically know the layout of your house. At most, a W…

Isn't that already enough for a heads up display? Direction relative to where I am point and shoot? I don't think the layout of the house matters that much since the person using the 'wifi' router strapped to their back/head can already see what's in front of them?

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Post by nielsbot »

troupo wrote: post #217
femiagbabiaka wrote: post #138

This is the logical conclusion to the state of irrational fear that Americans perpetually live in, that causes them to feel they need 24/7 surveillance of their homes, no matter the consequences.

Unfortunately this is contagious. During the last election cycle in Sweden the Moderate party (third-largest in parliament, and part of the government) literally ran ads like "More cameras on our streets for safety" Edit : added country

We need a competent counter-narrative but no one (few) figures in the federal government are offering one. The media also loves to report on crime. Etc.

I hope people will join their local community groups.

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Post by runlaszlorun »

Flere-Imsaho wrote: post #53
olex wrote: post #38

And this is why my setup will be using Reolink cameras integrated locally via HomeAssistant and Frigate. Detection runs locally on cameras and/or in Frigate, HA manages events and UI, and the only way to access any of it remotely is via VPN, no "cloud" anything. If the authorities come knocking with a warrant, or frankly, even a nicely-worded sensible request, sure, have at it. But ain't nobody accessing the footage…

My reolink runs off power over Ethernet. Here in the uk, there have been reports of Amazon drivers using wifi deauth-ing devices to kill the ring cameras when they are near your property. My parents recently experienced this.

I'm not disputing this but I'm not sure if I understand what it is they're doing or why but am curious.

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Post by ongy »

morshu9001 wrote: post #199
jeromegv wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Convenience for? Security? Isn’t increased security measures based on fear?

Just knowing when stuff happens outside your house when you're not home. Like, someone in the household came back from work, a package arrived, or a cool animal showed up. Or you're home and appreciate a little more notice before a visitor rings the doorbell. Personally not a compelling enough reason to buy the camera in the first place, but those non crime notifications end up being the most common once it's up.

Or having a quick chat with the delivery guy/neighbour while remote.

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Post by nielsbot »

mothballed wrote: post #37
gosub100 wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the government that wants unchecked power, no matter what. This is why people support the 2A, and why it was the 2nd most important thing to those who founded the country.

Most of the sanctuary areas that have historically resisted ICE are brutally against any originalist interpretation of the 2A.

You’ll have to fight fascism with mass protests not guns.

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Post by nonford150 »

IAmBroom wrote: post #148
throwway120385 wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The guys we blew up with a drone were definitely jihadists."

Not any better, nor different, than a missile from a piloted plane, or a guided missile. Yes, the current administration is morally capable of destroying random ships to claim victories over "bad guys". But they always had that ability.

As was the administrations of Clinton and Obama. The real issue is they (whomever is currently in power) can do these things, and there's nothing we can do to stop it from happening.

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Post by zitterbewegung »

shrubble wrote: post #43

When you take this info and combine it with the ability of Wifi7 routers to "see" where people are in their house, you realize that the recent demo of Anduril's helmet that gives an information display that the soldier/cop wearing it can use to "see who is in the house" or "see around corners" etc. is not sci-fi but instead, something they can do today.

I question where it's a good idea to give police / solider a big reflective helmet that can cause headaches, eye strain, and nausea (the previous system from Microsoft before Anduril took over). There were constant complaints by the users that it wasn't useful. I see Anduril using less lenses but the reflective ness of this helmet makes it a huge threat to the user of the product.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Visual_Augmentation... https://www.cnbc.com/2025/02/11/anduril-to-take-over-microso...

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Post by bigyabai »

potato3732842 wrote: post #15
mothballed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Big tech have always been dogs willing to play fetch for any master. The free market didn't offer big tech these quantity of rewards for brutalizing people 'guilty' of administrative infractions, our 'democratically' elected government did.

>elected government Elected in part by the useful idiots on HN and many other places. They were so ignorant of how government actually works they were happy to give it this power. They foresaw the jackboot being used to stomp petty criminals and fellow middle class types who don't "pay their fair share". But they had never cracked open a history book because if they had they would know that sort of stuff is never a t…

50,000 years may come to pass, and nothing will be funnier than HN defending Apple's App Store monopoly one year and then realizing what a catastrophic disaster it was 6 months later.

Are we sure that formalized populist regulation is the boogeyman? Like, really absolutely super duper double-checked certain?

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Post by Spooky23 »

PaulHoule wrote: post #225
Spooky23 wrote: post #163

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I think those narratives aren’t really correct either. At a 50,000 foot level, yes those numbers work out. But occupational numbers look at all sworn officers and don’t necessarily tell the story about the line police on the street. That said, the harrowing tales weaved by the unions in their negotiations or in TV don’t tell it either. Highway patrol officers have a similar risk profile to construction workers. Mostl…

See https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6400077/ My understanding is that the most predictive thing that harms you after traumatic events is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_injury which can even come from situations where you want to help people but you can't so it also badly affects teachers, nurses and other people who come across people's dysfunction and suffering. It's worse to be made to feel that you v…

Great points. I have several people close to me who are firemen. They see shit you’re not really intended to see, and often don’t have a way to work through it. My mom was a nurse, mostly in CCU and ICU. She was an incredible advocate for her patients and profession, but she witnessed a lot of death and her way of intellectually processing that made her seem harsh about certain things, but it’s really perspective — most of us see death as a concept not reality.

It’s part of the reason why an observant person can usually spot a cop or firefighter in plain clothes. They put on a facade as a coping mechanism that leaks into life.

Most problems at their root are a result of people not treating people like people. Many “advocates” for police are really just attracted to the perception of power, and see failures of accountability as a sign of strength. It’s the opposite.

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