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Apple Vision Pro upgraded with M5 chip

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Post by basisword »

intrasight wrote: post #162
basisword wrote: post #60

I wish they could get the price down. I had it for a few weeks before returning it. It's really an incredible device but for the value it currently provides it's not worth the cost. They also need to sort out the fact that mirroring a Mac is tied up with your Apple ID. My main use case was going to be mirroring my work MacBook, but I'm not signing into my work device with my personal Apple account. It's an astonishin…

I expect the Apple ID thing will be fixed as it should be easy. Halving the price should be easy too - but probably won't happen until the new "half the weight" version is released. They definitely don't have a decade. The market gave them 14 years with iPhone (Newton was 1993?). But things move a bit faster now.

>> I expect the Apple ID thing will be fixed as it should be easy.

That's what I initially thought but there have been two OS cycles now with no fix. I think Apple often back themselves into a corner when they base stuff around iCloud and I wouldn't be surprised if this was similar. Maybe user accounts on visionOS will be the eventual solution?

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Post by HatchedLake721 »

Mystery-Machine wrote: post #203
tetrisgm wrote: post #82

I love my first gen Apple Vision Pro. I find that most of the criticism isn’t addressed at the product and technology, but at the price and Apple’s strategy. Price will go down in five years, once the tech mature la. For now this is a bit like how the Oculus DK1 was. An early device to explore what the overall vision is about, and figure out the apps.

I use AVP every day for work. I spend 8+ hours a day wearing the thing. It's amazing the screen real estate you get when you share your Mac screen. It's terrible that it's only one screen, but with good enough window (pun intended) management app, you can tile the windows/app inside this giant curved floating screen. That works for me because I always preferred using a single screen.

Any tips to share from your experience using it for so long every day?

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Post by crooked-v »

fpgaminer wrote: post #204

I had to return my Vision Pro after trying it for a week. I'm one of those rare customers that genuinely wanted to keep it, because it's the only VR headset I could _actually_ get work done in thanks to its stellar resolution and overall screen quality. In spite of its many, many flaws. But I had to ditch the thing because: 1) it's stupidly heavy, and 2) it's the only headset that caused me eyestrain. I was praying f…

The problem isn't really total weight, it's unbalanced weight. For comparison, see the BoboVR head straps for the Quest (https://www.bobovr.com/products/s3-pro), which look ridiculous and add a lot of total weight (especially with a battery), but are actually more comfortable than not having it, because they spread out and counterbalance the weight of the headset.

The Dual Knit Band may help AVP comfort, but I'm skeptical. To have a significant benefit it would need to have much stiffer side support so that the entire thing can lever the weight of the headset upwards and pull the center of gravity way back from the face.

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Post by gdubs »

nomilk wrote: post #5

Anyone using one? If so, what for? (please give details) I got an oculus quest 2, was blown away by it for 1-2 hours, but never really picked it up again. The games were fun but very shallow, and never tried any practical uses. Would love to use VR for working on a plane. Currently use a laptop, but my neck sometimes gets sore from looking down. VR has the potential to 10x the screen real estate and prevent having to…

I develop for the platform, so I make apps. [1]

As a user, I actually use it more today than when I first got it, because each visionOS update has really unleveled the capabilities of the device. I like watching movies on the ceiling, the spatial scenes / photos / videos are really fun, and generally viewing your Photos library on Vision Pro is on a different level. Even non-spatial content just takes on a different, more immersive quality.

I have a lot of friends in the developer community, and enjoy playing with their apps. Things like "Cell Walk" where you can explore a 3D volumetric representation of different types of cells.

The Apple Immersive short films they release every so often are phenomenal – really nothing like them in my experience.

It's nice to be able to edit a movie and throw it onto a big screen, or have a gigantic workspace.

1: https://youtu.be/gDrk2HkiDhs?si=KhZsXOahpHPsAQGf https://youtu.be/QcTiDBtCafg?si=mH_MWi8MENjm8veT

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Post by paul7986 »

Maybe Apple’s working on smart glasses — one with a display, one without — to rival Meta. Honestly, Meta’s glasses are cool… until they break. And they do break!

Meta’s biggest weakness? No in-person support. Unlike Apple, they don’t have stores where you can walk in and get help.

My two pairs of Meta Ray Bans are broke - one was hosed after a software update.

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Post by yalogin »

Looks like everyone has the same complaint here about the device. Apple is not listening to its consumers and trying to push the device in directions that the users don't care about. I hope they make it a full fledged MacBook and just grabs that market. They can continue to push the "spatial computing" crap in parallel. I don't know what use cases or market fit the spatial computing has, but really having unlimited screens/space to work on is the main and best use case.

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Post by crooked-v »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #173
PaulHoule wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are three problems with AVP: cost, cost and cost. It is priced to be a pack-in with seats of Dassault 3DEXPERIENCE, but Meta's experience has been that the VR consumer is price sensitive which is why they followed up the MQ3 with the cost-reduced MQ3S. I think Apple is looking at this the way they look at AirPods (something you stick in your ears to modify and augment your hearing) which is good and monitors, w…

Weight too. When it's strapped to your face, heavy isn't 'premium'.

The weight would be fine if it was balanced across the head, instead of all on your face... but that would take away from the 'sleek' marketing shots.
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