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Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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We can build tons of infrastructure for cars that didn't exist before but can't for other things anymore? Seems like society is just becoming lethargic.

No, it's just hilariously impractical if you bother to think about it for more than five seconds.

Of course it is, everything is impractical except autogenerating mouse clicks on a browser. Anyone else starting to get late stage cryptocurrency vibes before the crash?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Is this a joke, or do you actually believe most people are incapable of using a computer?

I didn't write "incapable". Emphasis on "properly".

Ok, but you didn’t define what “proper” use of a computer means to you, which leaves the entire thing open to interpretation. I would say practically everyone is capable of using a computer to complete an enormous range of tasks. Is this not “proper” usage in your opinion?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

It's been happening in the USA for quite a long time. Anecdotally, the small city I grew up in, in Ohio (USA), started using cameras and some kind of computer vision to operate traffic signals 15 or 20 years ago, replacing inductive loops. I used to hang out sometimes with one of the old-timers who dealt with it as part of his long-time street department job. I asked him about that system once (over a decade ago now)…

Your comment flows with the grace of a Stephen King novel. Did you write it with an LLM by any chance?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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Whoa that’s cool. I’ll check it out, thanks!

Thanks! Let me know if you give it a shot and I’ll be happy to help you with anything.

You might want to change column title colors as they're not visible (I can see them when highlighting the text) https://herd.garden/docs/alternative-herd-vs-puppeteer/

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

Yes. I can't speak to the USA, as I'm from Canada, but I've had conversations with traffic engineers from another city about it and increasingly seen them in my own city. Here's an example of one of the systems: https://www.iteris.com/oursolutions/pedestrian-cyclist-safet... They're obviously more common in higher density areas with better cycling infrastructure. The inductive loops are effectively useless with carbo…

> seen them in my own city.

how can you tell that the cameras you are looking at are changing lights? is there an indication on them?

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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> the cameras you talk about have become increasingly popular over the years cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. which country are you referring to here?

> cameras are being used to detect traffic and change lights? i don't think thats happening in USA. Has been for the better part of a decade. Google `Iteris Vantage` and you will see some of the detection systems.

hard to tell if this is actually being used.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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What sorts of automations were you able to get working with the Chrome dev tools MCP?

Not OP, but in my experience, Jest and Playwright are so much faster that it's not worth doing much with the MCP. It's a neat toy, but it's just too slow for an LLM to try to control a browser using MCP calls.

Not tested much but Playright can read browser_network_requests' response, which is a much faster way to extract information than waiting for all the requests to finish, then parse the html, when what you're looking for is already nicely returned in an api call. Puppeteer MCP server doesn't have an equivalence.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Computer Use model

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I didn't write "incapable". Emphasis on "properly".

Ok, but you didn’t define what “proper” use of a computer means to you, which leaves the entire thing open to interpretation. I would say practically everyone is capable of using a computer to complete an enormous range of tasks. Is this not “proper” usage in your opinion?

You are conflating "use" and "control". I mean literal proper control of a computer, meaning the human controls (also programs), and especially understands, every aspect of what the computer is doing and can do. This is what a real AGI would be capable of, presumably. This includes knowledge of how programs are executed or how networks and protocols work, among a lot of other low-level things.
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