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Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

Not wanting to retrain myself on ortho is the main reason I went for the Dygma Raise over other ergos. It’s been pretty fantastic with some nice switches and custom PBT keycaps but I would spend another princely sum for a proper low profile edition.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

You may be interested in the Glove80[0]. I moved from the Moonlander to it for the very same reason. I have since moved on to a very small form-factor (Pteron36, which has just 36 keys) as I my hands started to tire from reaching for the keys on the perimeter so chopped right down. Or get the soldering iron out and build one of the many kits available[1] [0]: https://moergo.com [1]: https://golem.hu/board/list/low-pr…

I like the look of the Glove80, I came very close over the pandemic to building a Dactyl Manuform to try the "bowled" layout. I'm a bit skeptical of that though.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

Not wanting to retrain myself on ortho is the main reason I went for the Dygma Raise over other ergos. It’s been pretty fantastic with some nice switches and custom PBT keycaps but I would spend another princely sum for a proper low profile edition.

The Dygma Raise 2 is on my short list, it looks very good and if it were low profile I'd likely have ordered it.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

It may not exist now, but you can make it! It's not that hard to create a mechanical keyboard of your own. You can create the profile in ergogen or if you are comfortable with CAD, you can just model your own case then handwire the switches! There are many examples online and the space is very willing to help out people with their own projects.

I had totally forgotten about ergogen, thanks for the pointer. https://ergogen.cache.works/

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

Zsa voyager is low profile, you aware of that? Happy user for 1+ year here

I've come very close to buying one, but: it is ortholinear and I'd really like an extra row of keys on the right hand.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

When i switched to my kinesis advantage (then called the essential) in about 1999-2000. I had to spend a very dedicated amount of time using ONLY that keyboard. Once I became fully proficient I was able to switch between the advantage and 'normal' staggered boards without any problems. Muscle memory is incredible.

With the Ergodox the big issue I have is that my muscles know where a few of the unusual keys are (+/= primarily) and if I just type it I'm fine, but if I think about "where is +" I'm just jacked. I should probably just get used to using the second layer for +, which I do for {} and %, I really should more fully embrace that but it has just never stuck.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

Not a split but I found that an Alice layout fixed a lot of the hangups I had with typos on my ErgoDox EZ. I got the Keycron Q8 which is actually still on sale: https://www.keychron.com/products/keychron-q8-alice-layout-q... I also found I could type way faster on it than I even could on a split. I do miss the thumb cluster though... but this is close with the split thumb setup

Funny you should say that, I just ordered a $99 Keychron Q10 to try out, maybe I should have gotten the Q8 for $89. They're on Woot right now.

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

Keebio LM is really nice. I've had one for about 3 months now and it's been great https://keeb.io/products/iris-lm-keyboard

Re: Thoughts on Mechanical Keyboards and the ZSA Moonlander

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I've had a Moonlander for a couple years, and an ErgoDox Ez for 3-4 years before that, and, honestly, I'm looking to move to something else. My biggest issue seems to be that I'm switching between a Macbook and the Moonlander all the time, and the Moonlander I just find myself making too many dumb typos on. In particular, I think the ortholinear layout isn't doing me any favors, and the missing extra keys on the righ…

I also switch between my macbook keyboard and my external ortholinear keyboard. In my case, getting used to the ortholinear actually improved my typing on the macbook keyboard, as it taught me to use my pinky finger more, and also fixed some other bad habits of reaching across with the wrong finger to type certain keys. But I have an ordinary rectangular ortholinear, not a moonlander-type layout.
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