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Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 3:57 PM UTC

danaris wrote: post #256

rdtsc wrote: post #197

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> It’s actually a terrible excuse as the backlash is demonstrating. Even if they were about to axe the show all along it would have been a good idea to delay that to avoid the appearance they were caving to government pressure. But that meant having to defend making up stuff about a murder and comment on the crime even as the others are flying flags half staff. Quickly showing they caved to government's pressure was…

> But that meant having to defend making up stuff about a murder What was Kimmel making up? The fact that the shooter was conservative, from a conservative family? The fact that Kirk openly advocated for gun violence? Please do tell us exactly what was being "made up," here.

> The fact that the shooter was conservative, from a conservative family?

He implied it was trump maga head or some kind. Not just implied, he made it sound like it's a sure thing. Moreover, it applied to a crime that was just committed. When FCC threatened them ABC knew they couldn't appeal or fight. It wasn't worth it, it would have been a PR disaster.

This guy is nothing like a maga whatever, he as trans girlfriend, leftist views, parents said that much (they are the ones who turned him even), wrote "Bella ciao" on bullets and "catch, fascist" and most importantly heshoots a trump-loving personality like Kirk. How did Kimmel arrive at him being some trump fan, I don't see it. That's the intentionally spreading misinformation related to a crime, good enough for FCC to threaten him and good enough for ABC to realize they'll be in a losing game defending him.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:04 PM UTC

willmarch wrote: post #247

rdtsc wrote: post #185

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The executive branch controls the FCC which controls broadcasting licenses. Specifically broadcast journalism over the air is controlled https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/public-and-broadcasting#JOUR... Note: > Nevertheless, there are two issues related to broadcast journalism that are subject to Commission regulation: hoaxes and news distortion. Hoaxes. The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a crim…

The US government threatened a private company in an attempt to suppress speech that is protected under the 1st Amendment from government interference. This is a violation of the US Constitution. Full stop.

> This is a violation of the US Constitution. Full stop

I needs a comma, or semicolon at least.

> The US government threatened a private company

Threatened with what, imprisonment, death? They threatened to pull the FCC license. It turns out broadcast content is controlled by the government. It always has been. Kimmel can and should continue saying what he was saying on his own website or platform or whatever.

> This is a violation of the US Constitution.

Ok, let's say it's a clear cut violation, with a full stop, an open and shut case. ABC can file a lawsuit, it's an easy win isn't then? And, plus they get to show how they fought and won over fascism. Why did they fold so quickly then?

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:06 PM UTC

kingkawn wrote: post #259

rdtsc wrote: post #185

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The executive branch controls the FCC which controls broadcasting licenses. Specifically broadcast journalism over the air is controlled https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/public-and-broadcasting#JOUR... Note: > Nevertheless, there are two issues related to broadcast journalism that are subject to Commission regulation: hoaxes and news distortion. Hoaxes. The broadcast by a station of false information concerning a crim…

That’s a lotta words to justify complete bs

> That’s a lotta words to justify complete bs

If that's the rebuttal, I'll take it as an acknowledgement that's it's right.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by rdtsc » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:10 PM UTC

willmarch wrote: post #248

rdtsc wrote: post #205

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In the sense of both of them being violations of the US Constitution, yes they are exactly the same.

Absolutely. That perfectly illustrates my point. Thank you.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by lukev » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 4:47 PM UTC

digitaltrees wrote: post #234

nerdponx wrote: post #36

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It wasn't controversial, but this is literally the textbook Manufacturing Consent model. The small number of people in positions of power at the network are either overtly aligned with the president that he just talked bad about, or want to stay or get on the president's good side. He doesn't even need to pick up the phone or post anything on social media, they know what they need to do.

To be fair to the executives. The main regulator that could essentially issue the corporate death penalty, the FCC chairman that can revoke their license to operate, literally said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. That’s a Dirty Harry or goodfellas quote. So much for “government shouldn’t pick winners and losers in the economy”.

Alternatively, perhaps it is the duty of the executives to defend their company, its viewers and employees, when confronted with unlawful and unreasonable government demands.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by al_borland » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 5:00 PM UTC

myvoiceismypass wrote: post #265

al_borland wrote: post #179

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> with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them Anyone hearing this would take away that Tyler was maga, would they not? It heavily implies that he is maga, and that’s why the maga gang is trying to deflect. A lot of conclusions were jumped to early on by everyone. Things are more clear now, but still not 100%. From what I’ve seen so far he…

Your god-president lies every single time he opens his mouth. Huge lies. The biggest lies. He also ridicules everyone he dislikes. With hurtful language. All the time. He has never apologized for jack shit. > Anyone hearing this would take away that Tyler was maga, would they not? It heavily implies that he is maga, and that’s why the maga gang is trying to deflect. No one is tuning into Jimmy Kimmell for "news", tho…

> Your god-president

> your Fox News & Newsmax

You’re making a lot of assumptions here. Nowhere do I claim any party affiliation. Someone asked a question about why what Jimmy said was controversial, and I did my best to answer why a person might be upset. Other people who may have said similar things aren’t really relevant and it just gets into a game of whataboutism.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by eusto » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 5:32 PM UTC

thrance wrote: post #263

digitaltrees wrote: post #234

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To be fair to the executives. The main regulator that could essentially issue the corporate death penalty, the FCC chairman that can revoke their license to operate, literally said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. That’s a Dirty Harry or goodfellas quote. So much for “government shouldn’t pick winners and losers in the economy”.

You really don't have to be fair to the executives. The FCC absolutely can't do shit about Jimmy Kimmel, and would lose the procedure if it ever came to it. Instead, they immediately bent the knee and decided that loyalty to the nascent fascist regime was more important that standing up against the most clear cut and unjustifiable attack to free speech in a long time.

FCC can decide to not let the $6.2 billion Nexstar acquisition go through. Kimmel is just part of the bribe

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by kjkjadksj » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 6:01 PM UTC

autoexec wrote: post #236

kjkjadksj wrote: post #140

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Look at Target’s yearly chart. Then look at Walmart’s to see where it should have been.

Some people have been boycotting target for a while now, but people have also been boycotting walmart for longer. Both companies are still around and have billions (tens and hundreds of billions) in assets. Enough people will keep shopping there to keep them in business. If either company ever does die off it won't be because of a boycott. Even where boycotts have a measurable impact on their earnings it's not as if…

Targets CEO of 11 years is currently being forced out. Yeah, I’d say the shareholders are pissed when the stock is literally -40% on the year while other companies in this sector are doing the opposite. Their stock is one of the worst performing in the sp500 this year. Long term outlook is worse by the day.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by zzrrt » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 6:07 PM UTC

rdtsc wrote: post #230

beej71 wrote: post #226

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If that's the case, the next Democrat is definitely ending right wing talk radio.

Yeah that is definitely on the table, we'll see what happens. Here, interestingly, just a threat was enough. I wonder why the owners didn't want to fight it at all? The speed with with they folded was very telling. As others mentioned, I suspect if they decided they just didn't want to keep paying Kimmel for the show. He was making somewhere around $15m/year or something they saw a chance to say "goodbye".

IANAL but this doesn’t get them out of their contract though. They could “say ‘goodbye’” anytime they wanted and continue paying the rest of the contract.

They are submitting to what they view as either an existential threat, or the opportunity to make millions in the merger they want the FCC chair to approve.

Re: Disney+ cancellation page crashes as customers rush to quit

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Post by teaearlgraycold » Sat, Sep 20, 2025, 6:21 PM UTC

lukev wrote: post #275

digitaltrees wrote: post #234

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To be fair to the executives. The main regulator that could essentially issue the corporate death penalty, the FCC chairman that can revoke their license to operate, literally said “we can do this the easy way or the hard way”. That’s a Dirty Harry or goodfellas quote. So much for “government shouldn’t pick winners and losers in the economy”.

Alternatively, perhaps it is the duty of the executives to defend their company, its viewers and employees, when confronted with unlawful and unreasonable government demands.

If only they had a little money to fight back with.