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Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by serial_dev »

mattmaroon wrote: post #225
thw_9a83c wrote: post #181

The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.

It does seem that rebranding would just fix the problem. I don’t really understand why the name is worth fighting over.

Didn’t we try that experiment already with ECMAScript? Have you met anyone using it? Me neither.

I can’t wait for the “well actually” comments.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by tengbretson »

thw_9a83c wrote: post #181

The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.

Aparently it is fine if you take an existing, trademarked language name and just add `Script` to the end of it.

Obviously we should just call it JavaScriptScript.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by latexr »

ddtaylor wrote: post #180
Cheer2171 wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. We're all in on TypeScript now and I don't think they're teaching Java much in university or boot camps anymore so it doesn't matter much anyway. But when every other intern came in thinking programming WAS Java.... Not great. Having to never utter "JavaScript" again wasn't the primary motivation to move to T…

> No, it still causes confusion from new programmers, HR, execs who thinks JavaScript === writing Java Scripts. Anyone that stupid in 2025 is hopeless.

Intelligence has nothing to do with it. You can’t deduce JavaScript and Java aren’t related, you have to be told/read that.

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by serial_dev »

ModernMech wrote: post #256
thw_9a83c wrote: post #181

The name "JavaScript" was silly to begin with, just a way to make the buzzword "Java" more popular. Let's call it WebScript and move on.

"The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently invented a very good name and now I am looking for a suitable language." - Donald Knuth Javascript was never a good name and if they weren't the defacto option to program the web, they would have never made it. I don't know why deno is so eager to get hold of the JS trademark when they h…

They don’t want to get hold of the trademark, they want to cancel it altogether. IMO it’s an important distinction

Re: Help us raise $200k to free JavaScript from Oracle

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Post by sgammon »

Sammi wrote: post #54
jon-wood wrote: post #17

It's certainly a bold move for a private company that wants to take a behemoth like Oracle to court over something that mostly benefits themselves to solicit $200K of donations from random people in order to so. I look forward to seeing how that plays out for them.

> mostly benefits themselves This is incorrect. All users of Javascript benefit.

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