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Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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By way of contrast, America's current top "doctor" organized a class-action lawsuit against the HPV vaccine. https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/... ( "Kennedy played key role in Gardasil vaccine case against Merck" ) > "Details of the Gardasil litigation show how Kennedy took action beyond sowing doubt about the safety and efficacy of vaccines in the court of public opinion and helped build a…

I remember this being a big controversy in Texas in the 2000s. Our Republican governor, forcing girls to get the vaccine! What does he think Texan girls are, lusty? Not like disease prevention is a universally good thing and some people tend to have sex. At the end of the day, religious radicals like STDs because it enforces their worldview that having multiple sexual partners in a lifetime is a sin.

Rick Perry?

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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Amazing how badly the United States is regressing. Literally measles is making a comeback due to idiots like RFK.

This is now a global problem. The guy who started it, Andrew Wakefield, is British, and we have long had antivaxxers in Europe too. Prior to Covid, the antivaxx scene was vaguely left-and-green oriented, biomoms, vegans and other "very natural" people; you would expect them to vote for Greens or even more alternative parties. This changed abruptly and now the antivaxx scene is mostly rightwing, but the common base is…

That was the most ignorant comment I have seen on this matter. Nothing about vaccines, just attacks on the people questioning vaccine safety. If you truly believe all vaccines are completely safe I have a bridge to sell to you.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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The goal wasn't to eliminate the HPV strains, it was to decrease cervical cancer. Has Denmark encountered a drop in cervical cancer? If so, that's a great outcome!

The Danish center for disease control's webpage for the vaccine links to a recent (5 year old) Swedish study: https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa1917338 , but I couldn't find any Danish studies.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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The goal wasn't to eliminate the HPV strains, it was to decrease cervical cancer. Has Denmark encountered a drop in cervical cancer? If so, that's a great outcome!

The lead time from infection to cancer is very long, we would not expect to see too much of a drop *yet*. But testing for those strains seems to be as useful for screening as a pap smear.

There are some results from Scotland already, all very positive https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article/116/6/857/7577291?logi...

> No cases of invasive cancer were recorded in women immunized at 12 or 13 years of age irrespective of the number of doses. > Women vaccinated at 14 to 22 years of age and given 3 doses of the bivalent vaccine showed a significant reduction in incidence compared with all unvaccinated women

For the second group, cases dropped from 8.4 to 3.2 per 100k.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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If you're living in the US: please consider getting the vaccine, ragardless of your age. It was covered by my (rather shitty) health insurance. It consists of just 2 (EDIT: 3 for adults!) doses. It is recommended for both Males and Females.

That is a truly naïve way of thinking about a pharmaceutical product. Would you say the same about any other drug? What about blood pressure medicines, should everyone "consider getting it"? Completely ignorant, you have to consider multiple factors for the individual before taking any pharmaceutical drug and then you have to consider the risk from the drug, yes, low and behold, even vaccines can give side effects! The level of ignorance of the comments is staggering!

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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It is actually not straightforward to do. Safeway Pharmacy refused to actually give me the vaccine when I showed up saying I'm not in a group that's eligible. One Medical told me that it would be a $400/shot 3-shot regimen. I'll probably just travel to India some time to visit family and get Cervavac there instead of Gardasil here. It's about $20/shot.

Depending on the state you’re in, you likely have to get a prescription from a doctor, not a pharmacist, due to the wording of the law. Simplest route would be to call your primary doctor and ask if they can give it to you at your next annual checkup.

My Dr doesn't give me stuff. But that's only because I'm one of the millions of Americans who has no healthcare beyond what can paid out of my pocket. Not his fault.

Re: Denmark close to wiping out cancer-causing HPV strains after vaccine roll-out

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It's not approved for those over 45. (AFIAK, simply because so few people in that age group would have risk without having had prior exposure. Basically only those who had divorced or lost their long time partner.)

This is not true any more. The vaccine has been shown to lower cancer risk for those who already carry the virus, so it is recommended even for people who are HPV positive

That's interesting and I would like to take, can you give me a link/ ref for citation?
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