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Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by user34283 »

ookblah wrote: post #240

the fold 7 genuinely made me want to get a foldable for the first time, was that sleek. if it wasn't for being captive to the apple ecosystem i would strongly consider it (and may do so). i think with agentic coding now my ideal setup would be to be able to walk away and remote in from my heavy desktop/laptop w/ just my phone and check in on stuff and do some light work, etc. obviously i would still have my laptop bu…

I gave that a try, but it wasn't particularly economic.

I considered buying a keyboard for this case. I then decided against it. Probably carrying a MacBook Air makes more sense if I want to get work done on the go.

That said, I'm happy with my new Pixel 9 PF. It's better than the iPhone 16 Pro Max.

I also own various Apple devices, but I can't say there's any ecosystem integration I particularly miss.

Instead of iCloud I just use Google Drive now. I can still do facetime calls on my Mac. Also I continue to use the Home app on the iPhone.

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Post by jajko »

wffurr wrote: post #119
baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

>> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS As someone who switched from using Android for many years to iOS for the iPhone Mini, this seems to be all about what you're used to. The lack of polish on iOS for many features, notifications and quick settings first among them, makes me crazy but not enough to deal with a huge phone. Android's had the notification shade with integrated settings since just about da…

My wife is a doctor but exact opposite of power user for phones and technology overall. She switched from android to iphone 13 mini when it came out, I recommended it to her and thought Apple is ideal platform for her. Bough her ipods pro too, chargers and so on.

The only, literally only thing she liked was the seamless integration of airpods with phone, hated literally everything else about the hardware and mainly iOS/software. Too dumbed down for her, some trivial things she does often are simply not possible on iOS and that's it, no way on earth to change that without voiding warranty, if at all.

So now she bought Samsung S24 and couldn't be happier. The switch made airpods pro basically useless or more like supremely annoying to use (there's an anti-competitive case or two against Apple in this, degradation is very obvious and on purpose), so she gave them away and happy with whatever plugs she picked up from ocean of available and good enough hardware for her use.

My boss is same story - bought into Apple ecosystem with some older pro max variant maybe 5-6 years ago, then of course airpods and watches followed. The very definition of power user. Switching now back to android (pixel 10 pro), hates the products at this point.

These are people who don't care about price much but want best usability and convenience for them. From opposite side of spectrum of users. Me, I never had A device and probably never will, but I respect them for success and innovation they bring to the whole industry. Good competition literally helps everybody in long run.

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Post by Liftyee »

At some point when second-hand folding phones decrease in cost I'd like to get one as a second device just as a compact pocketable datasheet/PDF reader for engineering/electronics work. I think having a tablet sized screen without the bulk would be a huge bonus.

I recently tried an old industrial head-mounted display (Realwear HMT-1), but the display resolution is not good.

Re: Samsung taking market share from Apple in U.S. as foldable phones gain momentum

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Post by Liftyee »

Zigurd wrote: post #39
thebruce87m wrote: post #17

Apple are in a bind here since the bend/crease will degrade over time. Other manufacturers get a pass on this sort of stuff (just look at Pixel phones not making emergency calls for a prime example), but apple will be hit with fines and class action lawsuits.

Apple sometimes manages to wait out bad ideas: they never gave into the bad idea of touchscreen "convertible" laptops, just conceding the touch bar which is now extinct.

> the bad idea of touchscreen "convertible" laptops

Is it such a bad idea? I use a convertible Thinkpad to take handwritten notes as well as usual laptop duties. Perhaps it just doesn't fit your usecase, it seems that plenty of these laptops are still being made today.

Granted, my previous Gen 1 Thinkpad had constant motherboard and memory issues - not sure if design flaw, lemon, or otherwise. To their credit, Lenovo warranty repaired it and eventually gave an upgrade (my current device) for no charge.

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Post by epolanski »

baby wrote: post #108

I switched to Android last year, from being a long time iPhone user, just for the fold. I got the google pixel fold 9 pro. I also got lucky as it's right when all the cool AI integration started (and it sounds like it doesn't really work on Apple). My first hand experience is that I will probably never be able to go back to a non-folding phone. The ability to get a small tablet on demand anywhere (subway, train, bed,…

> is really the next technological breakthrough we were waiting for

I'm 99% convinced that the iPhone Air is the crippled child of Apple's intention to make a foldable.

They couldn't nail the foldable part (for the time being at least) so they just launched the Air with the things they nailed about the design.

> android also doesn't have the same polish as iOS

Could you provide examples here? Don't get if this is a "feels" thing.

The things that imho iOS really nails better are: - integration with devices (in the same Apple ecosystem) - battery life when browsing

What else?

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Post by phatfish »

yreg wrote: post #261
fennecbutt wrote: post #260

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Doesn't have the same polish? Are you kidding me. How do you go back on iOS? Oh yeah it depends on which app and sometimes even where you are within one app. On android? Use the navigation bar or the same back gesture, every time all the time.

I never ever had a problem of not being sure how to go back in an iOS app, so I don't see why a dedicated button is such a missing feature. Polish is also about visual consistency and Android is behind on that front.

iOS is filled with UI junk at this point. Not having a consistent way to go back is the least of my problems when attempting to use my wife's iPhone.

It is the most obvious though, having to tap right at the top left (usually) of the screen for the most frequently used action is incomprehensible.

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Post by izacus »

bigyabai wrote: post #211
Zigurd wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just like Apple released touchscreen laptops, amirite? They were a bad idea and a crime against ergonomics.

This but unironically. The funniest product in Apple's lineup right now, bar none, is the iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard. Apple spent 15 years refining their replacement for the laptop, and it's a touchscreen laptop that runs less software. You'd think that Apple would stop themselves after reinventing the 2013 Microsoft Surface. Then they reprised Hololens with Vision Pro - how was nobody paying attention to Microsoft…

It's a touchscreen laptop that runs less software and somehow costs more than the actually great laptop they sell at similar size. That magic keyboard pricing is... woof.

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Post by ruszki »

yepitwas wrote: post #189
abandonliberty wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was really surprised when I first got an iPhone. After all the hype about it being so intuitive and polished, it was just different. Some things better, some things worse. But Apple devices take a bit longer to go obsolete, and seem just a tiny bit less invasive as they don't rely on an advertising model for revenue.

It’s gotten worse. 6 and earlier, it was uniquely friendly and approachable.

In my experience, this was true also with Google’s version. The first few iterations were great, then went shit. I need only one thing: add diacritics, and fix basic misspellings. Now all of them try to be “smart” even when they should just add a diacritic to an “a”, they suggest me something completely different even when the word which I need is in their dictionary.

Maybe most people need more, but it annoys me greatly that it tries to be more than simple misspell fixer.

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