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Updates to Consumer Terms and Privacy Policy

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Post by mapontosevenths »

echelon wrote: post #158
sigmoid10 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

> while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. That doesn't matter when their revenue per user is as high as it is. They're at $5B ARR and rapidly growing.

The "killer app" isn't here yet. Wait until smart glasses or watches with AI overtake cellphones as the primary method of human interaction with computers and most websites are replaced with API's that only AI's really ever use.

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Post by SantalBlush »

bubblyworld wrote: post #255
the_arun wrote: post #243

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From Anthropic communication: > If you’re an existing user, you have until September 28, 2025 to accept the updated Consumer Terms and make your decision. If you choose to accept the new policies now, they will go into effect immediately. These updates will apply only to new or resumed chats and coding sessions. After September 28, you’ll need to make your selection on the model training setting in order to continue…

Under the FAQ: > Previous chats with no additional activity will not be used for model training.

That will be quietly removed later.

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Post by Ardren »

Syzygies wrote: post #193

Claude assists me in my math research. The scenario that concerns me is that Claude learns unpublished research ideas from me as we chat and code. Claude then suggests these same ideas to someone else, who legitimately believes this is now their work. Clearly commercial accounts use AI to assist in developing intellectual product, and privacy is mandatory. The same can apply to individuals.

> Claude assists me in my math research.

Pulling up the ladder behind you :-)

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Post by thejazzman »

chamomeal wrote: post #184
bigfishrunning wrote: post #131

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Except LLMs aren't a fundamental or core technology, they're an amusing party trick with some really enthusiastic marketers. We don't need them.

I’d say they’re a fundamental technology by now. Imagine how many people rely on them. And I’ve seen some heavy reliance.

my colleagues relying on it ruined the job for me and i quit. i became the debugging agent expected to constantly fix their half baked "it looks like it works" but doesn't nonsense

seriously, the idea we need this is a joke. people need it to pretend they can do their job. the rest of us enjoy having quick help from it. and we have done without it for a very long time already..

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Post by ratelimitsteve »

bubblyworld wrote: post #255
the_arun wrote: post #243

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From Anthropic communication: > If you’re an existing user, you have until September 28, 2025 to accept the updated Consumer Terms and make your decision. If you choose to accept the new policies now, they will go into effect immediately. These updates will apply only to new or resumed chats and coding sessions. After September 28, you’ll need to make your selection on the model training setting in order to continue…

Under the FAQ: > Previous chats with no additional activity will not be used for model training.

that "with no additional activity" seems backdoor-ish though. If I said some things in a chat expecting privacy per the agreement, then they change the agreement, does that mean they can collect my data from that chat going forward or does it mean they can collect it retroactively?

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Post by tsunamifury »

sigmoid10 wrote: post #39
psychoslave wrote: post #28

What a surprise, a big corp collected large amount of personal data under some promises, and now reveals actually they will exploit it in completely unrelated manner.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

The data is no where near valuable enough without a new high value surface to use it, and so far chat is not it.

Merely selling data is extremely low value compared to also having the surface monopoly to monetize it in a very high engagement and decisioning space.

I feel like you don’t understand the fundamental mechanics of the ad world. Ultimately, the big 4 own such immense decisions surface area it may be a while before any AI model company can create a product the get there.

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

beezlewax wrote: post #233
jascination wrote: post #135

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Enshittification. It's a thing.

But can you enshitten that which is already shit?

We’ve reached recursive enshitification, I need a thought leader to tell me what’s next

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

insane_dreamer wrote: post #249
diggan wrote: post #145

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Personally, I'm able to write code I wasn't able to before, like functions heavy with math. For game development, this has been super helpful, when I know basically what inputs I have, and what output I need, but I'm not able to figure out how the actual function implementation should be. Add a bunch of unit tests, let the LLM figure out the math, and I can move on to more important features. For me this been a prett…

Sure, I’m more productive with it in certain aspects of my work as well. Does that make it a net positive for humanity? From the energy consumption impact on climate change alone I would say the answer is clearly no. And that’s before we even talk about the impact on the next generation’s job opportunities. And tons of other issues like how Big Tech is behaving.

Was coming down from the trees a net positive for humanity?

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Post by bethekidyouwant »

mrcwinn wrote: post #172
sigmoid10 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The are valued at $170 Billion. Not quite the same as, but in same order of magnitude as OpenAI - while having only a single digit percent fraction of active users. They probably need to prepare for the eventual user data sellout, as it is becoming increasingly more obvious that none of the big players has a real and persistent tech leadership anymore. But millions and millions of users sharing their deepest thoughts…

There is far more money to be made building atop this data than selling this data. Your opening statement seems to disagree with your closing statement.

is there money to be made? I thought they were all losing money…
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