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Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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This reads like it was written by a developer 'who doesn't get marketing'. > Nothing you post there is going to change your career. I can attribute millions of dollars in revenue to LinkedIn, as can a lot of my 'LinkedIn friends' > Doing work that matters might. This is a pre-requisite for winning on LinkedIn. The kind of content that performs best are strong opinions informed by actual expertise. > Go for depth over…

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Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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The way I look at this is that the Adam Smith-ian free market makes the implicit assumption that market information (pricing, quality) disseminates via neutral, unbiased channels. However, the fact that influencing those channels is itself a commodity that is available on the market, paradoxically affects the operation of the market adversely. If supplier A has a product of quality Q at price P, and supplier B has a…

> The way I look at this is that the Adam Smith-ian free market makes the implicit assumption that market information (pricing, quality) disseminates via neutral, unbiased channels. This couldn’t be more incorrect. In Smith’s day your sources of information would be interpersonal, or one of your local newspapers. Newspapers in the 18th century wore their bias on their sleeves and had very particular world views, they…

This is a general phenomenon. People form associations through casual encounters with something or other without actually trying to understand what is actually the case.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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LinkedIn is decent for jobs/searching/applying. That's all I really find it useful for. Things I don't find it useful for: Salespeople trying to sell me some enterprise product when I don't have anything to do with selection/purchasing those items. Everything from IP phones to enterprise storage to whatever SaSS is hot Low-effort recruiter spam. Jobs I'm not interested in, qualified for, over-qualified for, want me t…

A really good way of weeding out the recruiter spam is to change your first name to an emoji (I use the waving hand) and then put first name and last name in the last name field. That way when a DM opens with 'hello %waving hand emoji%' you know it's just scripted bulk crap.

Good idea! Thank you

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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Plato identified this 2400 years ago as a fundamental flaw of representative democracy: you end up with people who are the best at and focus all of their efforts on getting elected and not people who are the best at and focus all of their efforts on governing. The problem of marketers remains unsolved after millennia.

is it unsolved? they seem to be doing very well for themselves.

That's why engineers are engineers. As a profession, they are trained to find the optimal answer to the questions they are asked.

The problem is, people are independent agents and generally prioritize their own outcome. If "being humbled" by some nonsense on LinkedIn gets you a high paying job that you perform poorly at, that's a win -- for you. Even if you get fired, you just roll with it and move to bigger and better things to fail up with.

Is it the best way to solve the problem the company has? No. But linkedin guy dngaf and is not asking that question!

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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If you find reading posts on LinkedIn as annoying as I do, there’s actually a nice solution that will literally wipe your feed blank: 1) Change your preferred feed view to “Most Recent Posts” : https://www.linkedin.com/mypreferences/m/settings/preferred-... 2) Unfollow all of your connections. You’ll stay connected but won’t see their annoying posts anymore. …and there you have it! Focused peace and zen on an otherwi…

Or just don't visit your feed?

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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> The way I look at this is that the Adam Smith-ian free market makes the implicit assumption that market information (pricing, quality) disseminates via neutral, unbiased channels. This couldn’t be more incorrect. In Smith’s day your sources of information would be interpersonal, or one of your local newspapers. Newspapers in the 18th century wore their bias on their sleeves and had very particular world views, they…

This is a general phenomenon. People form associations through casual encounters with something or other without actually trying to understand what is actually the case.

I think it’s the certainty that’s bothers me. It also concerns me that people underpin a larger anticapitalist worldview based on ahistorical and incorrect understandings of capitalism.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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No so much "stupid", just full of biases and somewhat lazy. This is a well-researched and documented fact. Knowingly abusing these biases to get them to buy or use something that they either don't need - or, worse, buying a low quality/low effort product when better alternatives exist - that's extremely detrimental. That's how we end up with the enshittification of everything.

Yes there are biases sometimes and it can get exploited and this is an exception that proves the rule. But the rule is that people know what they want to buy and know what they are getting into. You are trying to get in between by suggesting you know more than the buyer and seller.

exception? I couldn't disagree more. I can think of one or two specific examples "fair" or even "useful" advertising, and that's being generous, among thousands or tens of thousands of examples. I'm not claiming I know more than the buyer or seller, I'm claiming the seller "knows" much more than the buyer, and has vastly more resources and vested interest in the transaction than the buyer (because of the scale, and the fact that people are mostly very similar to each other - economies of scale, essentially). Note I'm restricting my argument to the case of big companies selling to consumers, or big companies buying from other big companies, although the latter is comparatively less damaging to society overall, still pretty bad tho.

The seller knows how much effort/resources were put into the product, knows (or has enough resources to figure out) how to nudge/mislead the consumer, has teams of brilliant people working on that - see the ad industry. I would definitely agree that the consumer has some responsibility, too, to stay informed, and if it weren't for the fact that this causes externalities to society, I wouldn't give a crap about the fact that some corporate director was duped into buying a terrible product. Unfortunately, that causes companies that particularly good in misleading people to outcompete companies who spend their money elsewhere.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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Oh so it is OK to post mediocre stuff on your own blog where no one reads.

But trying to show it to people is not.

I like „content guardians” everywhere saying „oh this does not belong to HN”, „oh this doesn’t belong to linked in.

Fuck that - let people do what they want and express themselves even if it is mediocre shoveling of ideas

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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LinkedIn also rewards absolutely sickening PR spamming. All the corporate feelgood PR bullshit that people willingly repost, it makes me sick to my stomach.

People must have no spine or self-worth to be reposting all their employer's hot air like that.

But yeah Microsoft is all about mediocrity. Their game is becoming the biggest common denominator, not the best.

Re: Sunny days are warm: why LinkedIn rewards mediocrity

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They mostly don't know what they are getting into though. You can't trust advertising, obviously. You can't trust reviews. You have no way to tell if there is actually a better product than the one you are seeing the ad for. You better hope there is a good return policy.

You can't trust advertising completely nor can you trust reviews completely but they are signals. Treating things as binary will not get you anywhere. Signals exist and are useful if not 100% accurate.

This is... an understatement. I would agree advertising is a useful signal, but I would say that not only can you not trust advertising, you should put negative weight on advertising - i.e. whenever you see an ad, that means the company is putting some amount of money into trying to convince you by means other than an honest comparison/spec table, and therefore is likely to have an inferior product. So personally, I generally avoid any companies/people whose presentations contains no information about the objective characteristics of their work.
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