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Post by a_thro_away »

at-fates-hands wrote: post #128
legitster wrote: post #38

Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available. (For their national broadcasts at least - local ... can be hit or miss). In particular, their kids programming is the absolute best. Nothing flashy or exciting, but it's laser focused on education and has zero agenda. And the PBS kids apps are one of the…

Conservative here. I wasn't very happy with the PBS defunding. One of their best shows was Frontline and the amount of just straight down the middle documentaries they did was great. For a lot of the issues that became very politicized, I would regularly turn to them for an unbiased view of what was going on. I agree on the educational stuff as well. How many generations of kids grew up watching PBS kids shows? My pa…

Your parents efforts, like many of the the good efforts to move humanity forward over many decades, have been thrown into the trash. The next generations of Americans will have social/educational gaps that CPB/PBS filled for educational, cultural, historical, and sociological reasons; not because they liked influencing little kids ideologically. And the future will suffer for it, as they say, if you don't learn it at home, society foots the bill to correct it.

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Post by leviathant »

MathMonkeyMan wrote: post #251
leviathant wrote: post #179

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's Fox, but for the Left There was a distinct shift to the right at NPR when Obama took office, and by the time he took his second term, NPR News' social media was posting clickbait trash instead of real headlines. "The liberal media" is an irrational boogeyman used to whip ownership in line. Everyone who complains about "bias in the media" is arguing in bad faith while they continue to turn a blind eye to the ov…

smithkl42 says that NPR is leftward, and you say that it's rightward. Maybe we're all operating from different baselines.

No. If that's what you took from my post, I've miscommunicated.

NPR has turned rightward. The entertainment shows are, without a doubt, liberal, on the American political spectrum. There are countless discussions and papers about the role empathy plays in successful entertainment.

The editorial content has turned rightward - and the leadership has turned rightward. This has been ongoing for at least two decades, probably longer, but I wasn't paying attention at that level when I was under 20.

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Post by BeetleB »

DFHippie wrote: post #117
BeetleB wrote: post #44

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> I would say it isn't that our institutions were built on sand, more that its hard to stop a madman who broke into your house with a chainsaw (a la Musk) from knocking down a few load-bearing walls. This isn't due to one man (Musk) or a rogue government agency, or even the executive branch. This is Congress, which tells you how bad things have gotten.

It isn't Congress writ large, is the Republican caucus in Congress. And the Republican caucus in the SCOTUS.

True, but the point being it's a large percentage of the government, representing a significant percentage of the population.

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Post by bitlax »

bevr1337 wrote: post #220
bitlax wrote: post #157

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PBS and NPR don't have regional programming. They're national. Local, member stations provide regional content. You'd be comparing WETA to OETA. I'm looking at your WETA TV guide and it is completely standard material. We've got kids cartoons, Bob Ross, some selections from BBC and Bloomberg, and Ask This Old House (one of my favorites). OETA has almost identical programming. Where's the programming where they bully…

> Where's the programming where they bully people about race and sex? Are you talking about that couple that give the good financial advice? Or maybe those cooks on America's Test Kitchen? I never did trust that Wishbone dog...

Oh yes that must have been it. I suppose I'll keep voting for defunding.

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Post by TimorousBestie »

hitekker wrote: post #243
nabwodahs wrote: post #124

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Can you cite specific examples of this "bias?"

"Babies are not babies until they are born. They’re fetuses." from https://wamu.org/story/19/05/15/guidance-reminder-on-abortio... I'm not against abortion. In fact, I actually see the legal necessity of it in an overpopulating world. But NPR's bias on the front does not align with my own bias or, I think, with most people. Everyone has bias and that's perfectly human. The problem is when we don't own up to it. NPR t…

> Babies are not babies until they are born. They’re fetuses.

This is a factual statement with accurate medical terminology.

We don’t call them meteorites until they hit the earth, either.

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Post by legitster »

ncr100 wrote: post #163
legitster wrote: post #38

Contrary to the conservative spin over the years, I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available. (For their national broadcasts at least - local ... can be hit or miss). In particular, their kids programming is the absolute best. Nothing flashy or exciting, but it's laser focused on education and has zero agenda. And the PBS kids apps are one of the…

Apologies for the following snark - it's tragic, so this is more of a reaction comment: > I have found public broadcasting to be one of the least biased sources of headline news and information available > kids programming is the absolute best Fixed that for you: > I USED TO FIND public broadcasting provided the least biased sources of headline news and information available > kids programming WAS the absolute best

CPB is going away, NPR and PBS are not.

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Post by AlotOfReading »

timr wrote: post #148
efitz wrote: post #101

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A lot of people are unable to see their own political bias; they look at BBC or Fox News and see “unbiased true reporting”. I highly suggest using Ground News (ground.news) for a week or a month as your sole portal into news stories, and then use their features to analyze bias in your selection of news stories and outlets. I use it regularly to try to offset my own biases.

I don't know about your suggested site, but I use foreign news for this. I have switched to "consuming news" [0] almost entirely from a variety of English-language foreign services. All national media services have their own bias and propaganda, but if you switch them up it becomes obvious very quickly. It also means that I miss out on most of the US political noise [1], which is a benefit to my mental health [2]. [0…

I suspect most people who look at international media and think it's better are using rose-tinted glasses.

Indian media is broadly worse if anything, latin american media is a trip if you have any understanding of the complicated political landscape, Aus is central to the Murdoch news dynasty, and East asian media has lots of famously partisan organizations. Maybe middle eastern media, explicitly funded for soft power political goals or African media, which span the gamut from bloodthirsty factional rags to leftover colonial institutions to tightly controlled extensions of the state apparatus?

They're differently biased, but you can't escape consuming media critically. "Averaging" by listening to a lot of different perspectives is 1) a lot of effort and 2) also something that can (and is) manipulated by making sure there's lots of "both sides" messaging present.

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Post by mulmen »

timr wrote: post #236
JeremyNT wrote: post #200

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Of course, if you live in a large metro the local stations will survive due to large numbers of wealthy and middle class benefactors. This is not necessarily so if you live in a typical red state middle size city or less. Somewhat ironically a lot of the extreme cuts (this included) only serve to reinforce the status of major blue state metros as more desirable, since they have more resources available to fill the ga…

> Somewhat ironically a lot of the extreme cuts (this included) only serve to reinforce the status of major blue state metros as more desirable, since they have more resources available to fill the gaps left by federal austerity. If the people in the red states aren't willing to pay for it , it would seem that they don't think it's desirable. Capitalism is funny that way. I get that you're trying to say that the pie…

We have a capitalist economy, not a capitalist society. The government exists to fill gaps where the market fails. CPB is one example of this. USPS is another. People who look at these organizations like businesses are fools.
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