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Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by yurish »

libertine wrote: post #125
taway1a2b3c wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think the point being made is that Western agencies (5-eyes) would give Ukranian intelligence the button to push (indirect action) and not push it themselves (direct action).

Not really, the point being made goes deeper. The Russian regime (and apparently a lot of Russians) deem Ukrainians as an inferior ethnic group - they call them "little Russians". Ukrainian authorship would mean: - Ukrainians are competent people with agency (which they are of course, for lots of reasons) - this plays into ethnophobia; - their government, military, etc, is competent, functional with agency - this pla…

Please stop spreading this BS. Малороссия ("little" Russia as you say) does not mean what you say.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

znpy wrote: post #267
BrandoElFollito wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it really depends on the scenario but if the application was dockerized and they had an image, it would be just starting it again, somewhere else. Possibly with the same network settings if the licensing check was based on that. But of course it can easily go south, though testing the recovery of a container based off an image and mounted volume is simple and quickly shows you if it works or not. But of course it may…

> it really depends on the scenario yeah and that scenario was clear: > Turns out some of the software running on it had some weird licensing checks tied to the hardware so it refused to start on the new server.

"hardware" does not mean "bare metal". It could be a MAC, a serial number or similar things that may be linked to a generic or clonable value in virtualization.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by FpUser »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #255
tastyfreeze wrote: post #220

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Where you actually charged and prosecuted for anything or did they just steal your gear without due process?

They had a warrant for the raid. Or at least they showed me a piece of paper, but my mind was so thrown that I literally couldn't read it (I've never experienced such a thing before or since - I literally couldn't make out letters on the page, such was my state of shock at the time). I wasn't arrested or charged, they found nothing of what they were looking for on the multi terabytes of disks they seized. No further…

Did they eventually return your gear?

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by libertine »

yurish wrote: post #271
libertine wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not really, the point being made goes deeper. The Russian regime (and apparently a lot of Russians) deem Ukrainians as an inferior ethnic group - they call them "little Russians". Ukrainian authorship would mean: - Ukrainians are competent people with agency (which they are of course, for lots of reasons) - this plays into ethnophobia; - their government, military, etc, is competent, functional with agency - this pla…

Please stop spreading this BS. Малороссия ("little" Russia as you say) does not mean what you say.

What does it mean in the current Russian political environment?

> The term Little Russia is now anachronistic when used to refer to the country Ukraine and the modern Ukrainian nation, its language, culture, etc. Such usage is typically perceived as conveying an imperialist view that the Ukrainian territory and people ("Little Russians") belong to "one, indivisible Russia".Today, many Ukrainians consider the term disparaging, indicative of Russian suppression of Ukrainian identity and language. It has continued to be used in Russian nationalist discourse, in which modern Ukrainians are presented as a single people in a united Russian nation. This has provoked new hostility toward and disapproval of the term by many Ukrainians. In July 2021 Vladimir Putin published a 7000-word essay, a large part of which was devoted to expounding these views. [0]

Just to make sure, according to you, this is completely false and detached?

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Russia#Modern_usage

But this is a small detail from my reply, why are people so focused on this? Even if I was wrong, which I don't see that I am, everything else still stands.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by consumer451 »

93po wrote: post #238

The source of this news is the Ukrainian military which seems to exaggerate and spread propaganda (as does every other country of course). I don't know why we accept this information as reliable.

I am genuinely curious, what are the known examples of them exaggerating and spreading propaganda, regarding operations like this?

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by rclkrtrzckr »

I am working for a medium sized Swiss company. We're coding our own ERP, based on a nightmare of a stack. We call it "security by confusion". An attacker would maybe find its way in, but he'll never find the way out. If he destroys 90% of our code, we'll still be up and running, because 95% of the codebase is obsolete.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by consumer451 »

dmix wrote: post #241

Here is a translated version of the telegram message posted by the hacking team: > LLC “Gaskar Integration” (Gaskar Group)—one of the largest UAV manufacturers in Russia—has just been penetrated right down to the tonsils in the course of demilitarization and denazification. > VO Team, together with the Ukrainian Cyber Alliance ( https://t.me/UCAgroup ) and another very well‑known organization whose mere mention makes…

> China transferred technology for the newest UAVs—technology that is now in our hands

Well, this is quite the interesting tidbit. Thanks for posting the translation.

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by grokgrok »

725686 wrote: post #225
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Short version: Possibly the worst thing to be raided for: distribution of CSAM. Apparently based purely on the 'evidence' of my IP address being on some list - that's the only explanation I ever got. Funny thing is, they did so little background research they didn't even know to expect kids in the house when they raided at 6:30am. It still triggers me. This was in August 2022. I wrote pages and pages of my memories a…

In the USA? Where you can be sued if someone slips on your sidewalk? Can't you sue the gvmt?

If your downspout is draining onto the sidewalk and turning it into an invisible ice rink...

Re: Ukrainian hackers destroyed the IT infrastructure of Russian drone manufacturer

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Post by eptcyka »

throwawayffffas wrote: post #183
eptcyka wrote: post #131

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Everything is configured via nix, I can swap out the hardware and redeploy everything from 0 with a single command invocation.

What if something happens to where you keep your configuration?

It is in git, I have backups. The secrets are not backed up, but those I can recycle if need be.
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