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I built something that changed my friend group's social fabric

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Post by derwiki »

gausswho wrote: post #138
101008 wrote: post #66

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This is something I've always wanted to write about, and I imagine that someday I'll end up with a long article, but basically, it's the idea that the internet used to be offline by default, and now it's online by default. People used to be offline by default. You had to “connect to the internet.” Open MSN, go into forums and check the latest unread messages, come back from a concert and manually upload the photos to…

Like many who lived through this inversion I can absolutely relate. I've culled my notifications substantially and my life is better for it. But I miss that feeling of firing up AIM and seeking out someone to chat with. Or someone spotting my arrival and immediately saying hi. I realized yesterday that I don't use phones like others do. I want to be in airplane mode whenever my phone is locked. Not Do Not Disturb mod…

One “low tech” solution would be to get a Faraday cage bag and out your phone in it when not in use

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Post by udev4096 »

MattJ100 wrote: post #187
udev4096 wrote: post #177

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Mumble is awesome but definitely difficult to properly configure. Especially the TLS certs for any reverse proxy won't work directly, there's a hacky way to make it work which I don't fully trust

I work on a project in this space, and the endless insistence of people that they have to run clearly non-web things through reverse proxies always amazes me :) Not everything is a web app, and it's trivial these days to obtain certificates, even without a proxy (certbot, etc.). Of course I understand that if you host a lot of web apps, having all web requests routed through a universal proxy is nice for various reas…

> I understand that if you host a lot of web apps

The only reason. Plus, it's a single source of truth and configuring an auth with a reverse proxy is far easier

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Post by martin82 »

tomashubelbauer wrote: post #209
rockostrich wrote: post #134

I think Discord is the best chat app for friend groups and it's not even close. At this point I've written the following bots specifically for my friend group's server: # Music Quiz Bot Existing apps work ok. A lot of paid and don't let you use a specific Spotify playlist. The only thing annoying about this one is that none of the Discord API wrappers handle audio very well so I've found that this one gets a bit flak…

I'm 32 and Discord is the harbinger of getting out of touch with technology for me. It is clearly a great service, because so many people use it and seem happy with it, but it is _not_ for me. And I wish that wasn't the case because Discord is pretty much _the_ spot for the communities I'd like to hang around with. But I wasn't able to get on top of its notification system or get past the gamer heavy UI. Does your fr…

I 100% agree about Discord being a horrible mess that can't possibly host normal people...

But Signal? It's basically identical to Whatsapp. I had zero issues getting people on Signal and I now use it exclusively. Every friend and family member is on it.

Only works for small groups though. I don't think large communities will have a good time on Signal. Telegram might be better for that.

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Post by jaytxng »

udev4096 wrote: post #128
__MatrixMan__ wrote: post #127

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Not every decision is about opsec. If, for what you're doing, you want people to be alerted about your actions without your explicit say-so, then signal is not the tool for that job. Shame on discord for having a lousy privacy stance, but most people aren't on signal for the privacy, most people are on signal because that's where their friends are (and one or two of those friends is there for the privacy).

That's the difference between people who give in and people who don't. This is not about "opsec", it's about exercising your fundamental right to privacy. Majority of people are reckless, the ones who take a second to think about it are not

but why can't the same person use both? i like discord since it has better group chat features that my groups use, but i also use signal for privacy with some of those group members.

it's not like people have to "don't give in" all the time...

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Post by albumen »

zerd wrote: post #240
albumen wrote: post #111

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Counter example: yesterday I took the train and ferry from london to dublin. Trains are a great way to meet new people, especially if you're sitting facing each other. Person opposite me was interested in the maths book my son was reading. Turns out he's an interrailing applied maths student from Scandinavia. We had a great chat for hours and exchanged numbers. My faith in humanity is not dead yet.

Counter-counter example. When my wife was new to the city she took a bus ride and a girl randomly made contact with her. They hit it off and talked for the whole ride. My wife thought this girl sounds really nice, they actually got into deep conversations, and wanted to exchange numbers so they could hang out some time. Then she asked if she had heard about the book of mormons…

Sorry to hear that. But I was responding to the comment that "Spontaneous, innocent chit chat is dead, both online and offline because everyone’s hustling now". Just one counter example is needed to prove that statement false. Of course, maybe my new contact will betray me and turn out to be a proselytising fundamentalist, but not yet...
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