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Post by pyman »

gambiting wrote: post #243
pyman wrote: post #238

The joy of deleting Facebook in 2021 is something I'll never be able to put into words. A company that's right up there with gambling and tobacco: designed to keep you hooked, no matter the cost.

I was going to say Instagram is much worse in terms of keeping you hooked but then I remembered who owns it.

Facebook is way worse than Instagram.

I've never, ever seen an algorithm as evil and anti-social as the one Facebook's programmers created. At one point, it was showing my family and friends a comment my cousin had made about a politician, and they started getting into heated arguments with him. And this kept happening again and again. It honestly felt like the algorithm was trying to polarise entire families and friend groups, driving engagement by surfacing exactly the things people disagreed with or didn't want to hear. During the pandemic the algorithm drove everyone insane.

At one point, I compared Facebook to a virus. It hijacked conversations, infected relationships, misled people, and distorted their perceptions of others.

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Post by ballenf »

rglullis wrote: post #190
conartist6 wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mmmmhm, which means the humans now understand that they should be callous and cold. If they're not rubber stamping rejections all the time then the AI isn't doing anything useful by making a feed of easy-to-reject applications. The system will become evil even if it has humans in it because they have been given no power to resist the incentives

> humans now understand that they should be callous and cold Were humans working on health insurance claims previously known for being warm and tend to err on the side of the patient?

The bot should have let ~5% of auto-accepted claims through to the humans. And then tracked their decision.

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Post by phendrenad2 »

Meta products are such a bad deal for users.

I wish there was an alternative to Facebook and Instagram, even if it had no users. We, as users, can solve the "no users" problem for you. Facebook and Instagram became popular, contrary to popular belief, not because it had "critical mass" or some Hoffmanite bullshit like that, but because it had the technical community using them, and they brought their friends and family.

Someone just needs to build it.

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Post by harvey9 »

barbazoo wrote: post #267

We’re on here are privileged. I feel bad for the billions of people that aren’t aware of or unable to see how truly terrible that organization is for societies and the planet.

I don't think this privilege counts for much since we all live in the same societies, and even among hn users there are few people with meaningful influence over Meta.

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Post by unfolding »

mslansn wrote: post #254
pyman wrote: post #238

The joy of deleting Facebook in 2021 is something I'll never be able to put into words. A company that's right up there with gambling and tobacco: designed to keep you hooked, no matter the cost.

All companies want you to give them more money no matter the cost.

they don't want your money - they want your attention

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Post by chrisweekly »

supplied_demand wrote: post #258
chrisweekly wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way is MSFT "slow-playing" AI?

They are slow-playing the promise of what AI can, should, and will accomplish for us. Nadella said this yesterday at YC’s AI Startup School: == “The real test of AI,” Nadella said, “is whether it can help solve everyday problems — like making healthcare, education, and paperwork faster and more efficient.” “If you’re going to use energy, you better have social permission to use it,” he said. “We just can’t consume en…

Thanks. I agree w the things Nadella said there. But it rings pretty hollow, given how hard every MSFT product is pushing AI. What would it look like if they weren't "slow-playing" it?

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Post by Anon1096 »

puttycat wrote: post #253

Some time ago I asked on HN "will you go work for Meta?" [1]. I'm so glad I didn't pass their (ridiculous, redundant) set of interviews. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40935199

So you failed their interview and then proceeded to post a whole thread to get validation that Meta's not a good company to work for? And you're still posting about it a year later? Talk about sour grapes.

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Post by lxgr »

gambiting wrote: post #255
fredley wrote: post #250

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The best time to delete Facebook was many years ago. The second best time is now.

Unfortunately, many of the old forums for various non-IT-related hobbies have disappeared and moved over to facebook groups and there is no alternative as such. Discord is great for anything related to software or hardware with computers, there are some fantastic communities, but if you are into cars or mountain biking or watches or fellwalking/hiking etc......you really don't have any alternative to facebook. I'm tr…

> Discord is great for anything related to software or hardware with computers

No, even that is terrible compared to forums – it doesn't get indexed by search engines!

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Post by morkalork »

arrowsmith wrote: post #207
coef2 wrote: post #16

I miss the old days when Facebook was simply a fun way to reconnect with friend and family who lived far away. Unfortunately, those days are gone. It feels like an over engineered attention-hogging system that collects a large amount of data and risks people's mental health along the way.

Who even uses Facebook anymore? I don't know anyone who posts to their own profile anymore, and I'm part of the generation where literally everybody was posting every detail of their lives to FB as students. For "seeing what old friends are up to", that's entirely shifted to IG. (Yes, pedants, I know that this is an FB product.) The only time I ever open FB nowadays is for the marketplace, and when I do, all I see in…

Marketplace :/
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