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The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by 827a »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #269
827a wrote: post #86

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Agreed. The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. If there's evidence that Hims' drugs are harmful: Present it. The article doesn't. I know tons of people who have used Hims and companies like it, for a variety of things. I'm aware of no specific or general problems anyone has had with their medication.

China provably has seen issues with adulteration of food: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal That is not to say that Hims's drugs were unsafe, or that they even came from China to begin with. What I am saying, is that it's not racism to mention that Chinese products are, in fact, occasionally shady (of poor quality).

Sure; and a bunch of Phillips (a European company) CPAP machines (which had received full FDA clearance) killed over 500 people [1]. The J&J COVID vaccine gave over 100 people GBS [2]. We could go back to the 80s and pick on the Therac-25, which caused six incidents of severe radiation exposure or death [3]. And a thousand other examples in-between, of western made, FDA approved, vetted, and tested medicines or therapies that ended up killing people.

It would be stupid to believe that the FDA doesn't serve an important purpose. But, it would be equally daft to believe that even FDA-cleared products aren't, in fact, occasionally shady (of poor quality). It would be racist to believe that China is unique in the production of occasionally shady products; that the same things don't happen all the time in western manufacturing facilities.

[1] https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/recalled-philips-ventila...

[2] https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/covid-vaccine-guillain-bar...

[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Therac-25

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throw10920 wrote: post #254
827a wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed. The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. If there's evidence that Hims' drugs are harmful: Present it. The article doesn't. I know tons of people who have used Hims and companies like it, for a variety of things. I'm aware of no specific or general problems anyone has had with their medication.

> The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. Factually incorrect. A country is not a race. You cannot be racist against a country, by definition, and China in particular has a very well-documented pattern of making low-quality clones of products from other countries (often using IP stolen from those countries), so the concern is well-justified. More…

Typically I would agree on the separation of nationality and race; but in the case of China its actually far more accurate to intrinsically tie the country and the race, given that this is the official position of the CCP.

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by throw10920 »

827a wrote: post #272
throw10920 wrote: post #254

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> The number of times the article specifically calls out "shady Chinese knockoffs" is honestly, actually, racism. Factually incorrect. A country is not a race. You cannot be racist against a country, by definition, and China in particular has a very well-documented pattern of making low-quality clones of products from other countries (often using IP stolen from those countries), so the concern is well-justified. More…

Typically I would agree on the separation of nationality and race; but in the case of China its actually far more accurate to intrinsically tie the country and the race, given that this is the official position of the CCP.

No, it's factually not more accurate. The CCP's policies do not dictate reality, and the morally objectional ethnostate policy is both not actually the reality within China (given that about 9% of the population is not Han Chinese), and is not practiced by the majority of other nations/states in the world.

Most importantly, the author of the article is not based in China, or in any other nation that has an ethnostate policy, but in the US[1]. Therefore, even if you could make the argument that every person in China believes that states = races (which is clearly false), it still wouldn't apply to the author. Or, you know, almost anyone else on Hacker News.

So no, claiming that attacks on China are "racist" is still factually incorrect, and I really would hope that you'd invest the bare minimum of effort to verify that your claim is correct before throwing such an extreme accusation at someone.

[1] https://www.alexkesin.com/p/who-is-alex-kesin

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Post by sizzle »

ljf wrote: post #266
sizzle wrote: post #233

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Did it fill in your crown area??

It is far better than it was, my thinning was definitely crown but also hairline - I went for a walk one day and got really wet and when I looked in the mirror I could see just how thin my hair was. I've applied liquid minoxidil for 5 years now, and it reversed the balding to a good degree, but my hair is still thinner than it was at 30, but it is far far better than it was at 40. I've been using finasteride (tablets…

I’m afraid of the reproductive and erectile dysfunction side effects

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by sizzle »

Tadpole9181 wrote: post #250
sizzle wrote: post #233

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Did it fill in your crown area??

Finasteride alone won't reverse that much, it stops the path for testosterone becoming DHT (the cause of androgenic alopecia). Taken orally, it stops or slows all hair loss. Minoxadil increases blood flow and restores the natural growth cycle lengths of weakened follicles. This is applied topically, and promotes hair growth pretty much anywhere - beard, crown, temples. You can take it orally, and it will promote hair…

Wow that would be a blockbuster drug if it passes. Know the name of it?

Re: The Hollow Men of Hims

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Post by gunsle »

n8cpdx wrote: post #248
gunsle wrote: post #23

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Tretinoin is easily prescribed by seeing a dermatologist. What do you mean it’s a nightmare to get even with a prescription? I think a tube of cream cost like $10 at Costco. You don’t even need to use your own insurance to buy things from the pharmacy as long as you have a prescription. I never once had a problem filling it before I switched to Accutane.

My doctor keeps prescribing it and the pharmacy keeps not filling it. I’m not really sure what’s going wrong, I haven’t taken the time to debug the situation. I shouldn’t need to, and I’ve never needed to with hims.

So you’re not even willing to look into the issue, or understand what your problem is. You could have resolved this with like two calls to your pharmacy, but whatever keep shilling hims lol

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Post by lingnerter »

wonderwonder wrote: post #192
jjcob wrote: post #166

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Why are you taking testosterone?

Started out as Testosterone Replacement Therapy (TRT). I had low overall testosterone due to age (low 300's). Mid 40's. Not necessarily low for my age but low overall. Who wants the testosterone levels of an old man? Before I got on I was lethargic, unfocused and had no real drive. My evenings would consist of just sitting on the couch. I had been like that for years. I was middle aged. I didn't want to be like that…

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