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Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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You're using a telephone to call and message people? If you think that your phone provider isn't spying on you, I would like to cut you into an incredible, once-in-a-lifetime investment opportunity in some Louisiana waterfront property. All I need is your phone number, mother's maiden name, ...

sure, NSA might be :) but not Meta…

And China. And likely lots of other nations.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/chinese-hackers-stole-...

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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I believe nothing of the sort about social (or mass) media. I do, however, believe that you aren't engaging with what I'm saying, or recognizing some very obvious logical holes in your arguments. Your argument seems to be one of dogma, not one of reason.

huh? let me quote one of the commenters here and see if you recognize the words Sure, I can also avoid putting chemicals on my body by washing my hair with apple cider vinegar and baking soda, and I can also churn my own butter by hand…

Could you read the rest of the words in that post?

There are a lot more of them, and they are kind of integral to its meaning.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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Iraq and Gaza was an absolute joke compared to what it would take to topple the Iranian militants, militias, and government. Much of the terrain is similar to Afghanistan. Tribal islamic alliances are resilient against loss of central governance. There is a massive porous mountainous border to 2+ countries that conceivably will look the other way for certain islamic militants. I know everyone wants to gobble down the…

Tribal?

About 10-20% of the population.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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don’t your friends and family have phone numbers? I have right now 12 active groups on my text messages. why on earth do you need “app”??! I am lost …

Group messaging via sms is terrible. So is photo sharing.

all these are easy excuses… you are here on HN, probably some dope SWE doing amazing shit, I am sure you are more than capable of solving any “picture sharing” problem that is an issue with SMS.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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I find the wordsmithery on Meta's statement the most interesting: “We do not track your *PRECISE* location, we don’t keep logs of who everyone is messaging and we do not track the *PERSONAL* messages people are sending one another," it added. “We do not provide *BULK* information to any government.”

Why would anyone care what they say. Judging by their previous behavior it is safe to say that if their lips are moving - they're lying

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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Do you see an out for Khamenei et al ? They can’t credibly dismantle their nuclear deterrent and expect to keep their heads. Israel and America cannot accept it, particularly now that its conventional defences have been shown ineffective. The classic approach, airlifting the Ayatollah to a dacha in Moscow while the IRGC saves face and plots a forever path to new elections, falls apart when you consider how Iran’s int…

> Do you see an out for Khamenei et al? They can’t credibly dismantle their nuclear deterrent and expect to keep their heads. Israel and America cannot accept it, particularly now that its conventional defences have been shown ineffective Honestly, I don’t think the American people have the stomach for another Middle Eastern war, and Israel has shown in the past that if you recognize their right to exist in some form…

> don’t think the American people have the stomach for another Middle Eastern war

We don’t. That’s why the only plausible escalation here is we bomb stuff and go home.

> if he pulled back from those two rivalries, I doubt that hurts him much

Hmm, I wonder if this could work together with IAEA denuclearisation. Possibly with Chinese help. They, too, have an interest in Iran remaining deradicalised and flowing.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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All the major social media and messaging platforms are compromised and serve as tools for surveillance, so the Iranian government isn't wrong.

Iraq and Gaza was an absolute joke compared to what it would take to topple the Iranian militants, militias, and government. Much of the terrain is similar to Afghanistan. Tribal islamic alliances are resilient against loss of central governance. There is a massive porous mountainous border to 2+ countries that conceivably will look the other way for certain islamic militants. I know everyone wants to gobble down the…

And it's larger than Iraq and Afghanistan combined. Both in population and surface area

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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i don't get that. Saddam Hussain was a genocidal, fascist lunatic. The world is certainly a better place with him gone. Even if America didn't handle the subsequent occupation too well, i would argue (and you are free to disagree) that Iraq was still better off. But an American occupation isn't even on the table. Nobody is interested in that. The most anyone wants at the moment is for the US to drop a MOAB on fordo a…

> Saddam Hussain was a genocidal, fascist lunatic. Yes. > The world is certainly a better place with him gone. Even if America didn't handle the subsequent occupation too well, i would argue (and you are free to disagree) that Iraq was still better off. That is mad talk. Things have been much worse, so much worse for almost everyone in and around Iraq since that war. ISIS for one thing, was a direct result of the per…

It's like saying that russia is worse off after the collapse of communism and attributing that to capitalism.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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sure, NSA might be :) but not Meta…

And China. And likely lots of other nations. https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/chinese-hackers-stole-...

got no problems with China, their entire existence is not predicated on selling shit to people and fucking with our youth.

Re: Iran asks its people to delete WhatsApp from their devices

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Will this result in bloody civil war like in Iraq and minimal dysfunctional central government after?

What’s the alternative? Live under the delusional islamic theocratic dictatorship forever? If you think the islamic republic can be replaced through peaceful protests you have another thing coming, they have already killed thousands of protestors and they have no problem killing because they actually believe they are doing god’s work and the protestors are infidels that deserve to die. I take my chances for a probabl…

>"I take my chances for a probable dysfunctional government rather than a definitely dysfunctional one."

I hear tickets to Libya are cheap lately. You can visit and compare.

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