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Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by toyg »

czottmann wrote: post #216
modeless wrote: post #156

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If by fan service you mean the scene where Darth Vader is at his most terrifying in the whole franchise, I think it was handled perfectly.

Here's a few instances of fan service in that movie: - Andor running into Pigperson and Grover on Yedha - That entirely random 20-sec scene with C-3PO and R2-D2 - "Red Leader, standing by" was archive footage from A New Hope (and arguably a tribute to the late actor)

Rogue One was the first standalone movie in the Star Wars universe. There was a lot of uncertainty about how it would be received. I don't blame them for ham-fistedly shoving in there some extra linkage to the main canon... and even with that, it made much less than the "regular" sequel trilogy.

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by ghaff »

toyg wrote: post #265
twoodfin wrote: post #200

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My main (mild) criticism of the now-complete Andor->Rogue One arc is that it only put its toe into the waters of the Death Star. Giving that concept a thematic heft well beyond its Flash-Gordon-supervillain origins appeared “fully armed and operational” in the story, but in the end it barely rises to subtext.

But there is no conflict, no interest, in exploring a building site. What are you going to talk about, contractors installing pipes? How they get the best canteen food? It's actually better for the Death Star to be unseen, so that its full horror can only be imagined - and hence, becoming greater - in our minds.

And as has been explored the economics don’t really make sense.

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Post by HillRat »

esafak wrote: post #162
goalieca wrote: post #159

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The shot, once made, is forever unless you do an expensive reshoot. Software bugs happen and people have low expectations for bugs even in highly scaling software like YouTube.

Haven't you heard of "We'll fix it in post"? Given the way things are, whole movies are going to be made in post...

One thing about Andor is that Gilroy specifically encouraged the directors not to shoot a lot of coverage and focus instead on very intentional shot lists, which both sped up shooting (critical given the cost of the production, COVID requirements, and the Hollywood strikes) and resulted in a much more crafted look, though it required a lot of detailed up-front planning. It’s really quite striking how different that approach is from the usual way things are shot, edited, and cleaned these days.

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Post by jccalhoun »

themgt wrote: post #212
jccalhoun wrote: post #128

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I don't get what people love about Andor. The prison break episode was good but the flashbacks to the kids in the jungle were horrible and the funeral with instruments straight out of Fat Albert's junkyard band were laughable.

There's a lot to love, but e.g. the whole S2 arc where the Empire is provoking and covertly encouraging a rebellion on the planet they want to gut for resources - our protagonist gets a bad feeling about helping the amateur hour rebels but the amoral leader actually wants to encourage them knowing they'll likely fail. "Think about a planet like Ghorman in rebellion. A planet of wealth and status." "And if it goes up…

I found season 1 so underwhelming that I haven't gotten to season 2 yet.

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Post by geeunits »

xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

It's incredible, everyone has pride and position. And are unique in stature and glue. No one person is unnecessary. All rely on each other to succeed. It's more army than office

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Post by geeunits »

MangoToupe wrote: post #239
munificent wrote: post #157

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A big part of the difference is the timelines and scale. When you ship a piece of software, it's often expected to be usable by a million people reliably for years. In film and video production, you're duct taping shit together to get it to stay in one piece just long enough to get the shot and get the film out the door. You're fixing shit in post because you were in a hurry on set. It's a sort of barely controlled c…

Yea a movie is basically the most expensive demo imaginable in software engineering terms. It's a feat that you only need to get right a single time. Curiously I think this shares a lot with other types of engineering. If you're putting men on the moon, you have to get everything right a single time .

But we do 'right a single time' every time. It's groundhog day.

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Post by bsder »

esafak wrote: post #162
goalieca wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The shot, once made, is forever unless you do an expensive reshoot. Software bugs happen and people have low expectations for bugs even in highly scaling software like YouTube.

Haven't you heard of "We'll fix it in post"? Given the way things are, whole movies are going to be made in post...

Which is ironic given how much of the original Star Wars was fixed in post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFMyMxMYDNk

Re: Cinematography of “Andor”

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Post by sgt »

meowface wrote: post #21
reimertz wrote: post #16

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Sorry but I would flag this as AI-generated unless you can provide a reference.

The user definitely is not AI but I think they may've misread something or fell for a meme/joke they saw. There indeed is absolutely no planned sequel to or continuation of Andor, nor currently any known plans for the creator of it to create anything else in this franchise. I'd sure like it if he did, though.

I might indeed have fallen for something. I trusted an untrustworthy source. Sorry

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Post by morkalork »

chiph wrote: post #35

What has impressed me is that in all the Imperial scenes - they have a lot of polished surfaces (floor, control panels, etc) and you never see a reflection of crew or film equipment. I'm sure most of this is the result of good planning before filming but also the amount of effort put in post-production to remove any it. As a physical media guy, I'm happy that Disney decided to release season 1 on 4k UHD. And I hope t…

All the interior sets of imperial ships, especially the crashed one in S1 were absolutely gorgeous. The shiny black glass surfaces, analogue controls, blinking lights and fixtures everywhere were just wow. I can't remember the last time I saw such a well done rendition of "sleek retro-futuristic" aesthetic.

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Post by rockemsockem »

QuiEgo wrote: post #190
xorcist wrote: post #132

What I don't understand is how film crews can work together when they are larger than two pizza teams? And when they want to change something, it's almost like they just do it? Surely they have to file a ticket with the Product Owner first? And why don't they wait until the current sprint is done before doing things that clearly belongs to the next one? Why do the producer run around speaking in precise terms when he…

> two pizza teams Found the Amazonian. It’s amazing how the corporate jargon seeps in, no matter how hard you try :). In some ways, deciding to work there is definitely a one way door.

Do people really unironically talk about the importance of pizza teams at Amazon?
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