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The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Dont use soap down there. Water is enough normally.

Dont use soap on my hands. Water is enough normally.

You know that these are different areas with different skin types.

But yes too much soap on hands can also be bad.

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Less environmentally friendly and greatly more damaging to the infrastructure. Spain is even looking to introduce legislation to reduce/remove their use[0]. [0] https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2025/may/28/spain-to...

That link talks about plastic items, but the wet wipes I’m familiar with are 100% plant-based and biodegradable, and dissolve in water. Edit, to clarify: The wipes in question have been certified according to the EDANA Flushability Guidelines, which have been adopted into law in some countries, and there is also a related Spanish standard UNE 149002:2019 (“Acceptance criteria for disposable products via toilet”). The…

I would love to know which wipes those are, because I have never come across any that are even remotely actually dissolvable. If you know of a brand, I really would like to know which that is. Have you ever tried putting one in some water just to see how dissolvable they are?

There is also that they’re kind of a contradiction in terms anyways, they’re wet … wipes. If they were dissolvable in water, the wetness of the wipes would cause dissolvement.

What many people are not even aware of is that even all high end toilet paper in the USA is a major headache for sewer systems because even that “paper” does not dissolve well at all, because they’re so focused on making the “paper” feel soft or be durable, it’s technically not even paper anymore and actually more like a cellulose felt.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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I know the Japanese refined this (as they do so many things such as — no offense to Italians — pizza and pasta; I think the Japanese often do it really well), but I always thought this was a French/European thing and not really what you call a Japanese toilet.

I’m certain the Japanese couldn’t be the first to find ways to heat seats or provide different settings for washing.

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As someone who has been dealing with flared hemorrhoids since I was a teenager, I improvised my post-2 work by simply washing with the shower pistol whose cord is long enough to reach behind me while I'm sitting on the toilet. Since then, whenever I search for a new apartment to rent, this became one of the criteria I look for! I simply can't go back to just dry wiping, ever.

As someone who had hemorrhoids since teenager (got it removed during a surgery), I'd recommend a portable bidet. Game changer. Can now comfortably do Nr2 even at my dad's summer place with old toilet, or any public toilet. They're often very cheap too (bought mine for <10$ in Japan) and last long enough

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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In almost all of SE Asia, especially Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, all of the toilets come with a hand-held sprayer. They also had this in the Doha airport and I'm not sure how common this style is outside of SE Asia but I'm guessing it's common. Japanese style bidets are very common in Korean households as well and I'm sure its easily a billion dollar business. It is nice but the functionality is quite difficult for…

> … but the functionality is quite difficult for a person who's not used to this whatsoever. I guess for some definition of difficult? Honestly it takes about 5 seconds to get used to and then you can never go back to using just toilet paper.

No, they're actually miserable and I strongly prefer toilet paper (yes, I have read all the comments about whether you'd use toilet paper if it touched any other part of your body, etc.) Most parts of the world literally just spray cold water at you; some of them also require you to aim. Toilet paper is a lot neater than this.

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this is also the most common thing in india fwiw so it’s not all religious.

Well, Indians have learned this technology from abroad--mostly Middle East, thats where many Indians work. Of course, now Indian companies make those sprayer bidets.

People have been using water to clean themselves for hundreds if not thousands of years.

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post #271

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Dont use soap on my hands. Water is enough normally.

You know that these are different areas with different skin types. But yes too much soap on hands can also be bad.

I assure you that using soap once a day is not too much for that skin type.

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post #225

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Shitting in a hole in the ground in the middle of nature is serene but also doesn't scale to population density.

Not "in the ground" in the strict sense, but I'm pretty sure that composting toilets would scale to population density. Same basic idea as shitting in a hole (and probably more useful than water-based toilets).

https://youtu.be/DzANRll8ltI?feature=shared

Scaling is not something intuitive to end user. Hard to say "pretty sure it scales" when your usage is so low scale, secondary effects are invisible to you

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Every bathroom in Thailand and Argentina is built with a drain in the floor. It's forward thinking construction. Otherwise, without the drain, either the bum gun or the bidet can and will easily damage the floor and anything below it.

It seems wild to me you'd have a bathroom without a general floor drain? Like it's a room where we put water taps...a floor drain just makes sense (and you already need to put plumbing in for floor drains to have like, a shower work).

Most bathrooms in the US do not have a floor drain. In fact many are not even tile and might be wood or (heaven forbid) carpet.

Re: The Rise of the Japanese Toilet

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Reminds me the phrase the "Future is already here, it is just not evenly distributed."

Lots of people take it for granted. But in many places outside of East Asia. They are not given.

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