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Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #220

I find it weird that this is news and not: - That it's still way cheaper in most instances to book a return (especially where the "trip" straddles a weekend) rather than a one-way fare when travelling long haul - even if you just throw away the return flight. - That you can sometimes get access to totally different inventory by booking a package including accommodation, even if that accommodation is one night in a sh…

Isn’t it a waste to book accommodation and not use it? If it is a popular place, maybe they’ll give it to walkins or something, but otherwise?

My home is empty nearly 70% of the time. Surely that is more wasteful than not using a dorm bed once per year

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #194

Here is why I think these kinds of dynamic pricing practices are bad: it may be perfectly fair and legal, but it forces a non-negligible number of humanity to waste time and/or energy to figure out if it's happening, how to work around it if it is, and just generally waste human potential on something that should be a simple commodity.

Airline ticket prices are flat since 2000, which is down almost 50% after inflation. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CUUR0000SETG01. So I say let them keep doing what they're doing.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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post #194

Here is why I think these kinds of dynamic pricing practices are bad: it may be perfectly fair and legal, but it forces a non-negligible number of humanity to waste time and/or energy to figure out if it's happening, how to work around it if it is, and just generally waste human potential on something that should be a simple commodity.

Same with points systems. Why am I forced to understand your made up currency and status system to get the full value of my money. There might be some benefits to price discrimination (which is in effect what a point systems achieves) but the collective time wasted dicking around with points isn’t worth it. Make all point systems illegal.

> Why am I forced to understand your made up currency and status system to get the full value of my money.

You're not forced. This allows them to make extra money from people who don't bother, and offer discounts to price conscious people.

Time is money. Convenience too.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've flown a good number of transatlantic routes with my family, and I've also flown over alone. From my anecdata, being single greatly increases your chances of being bumped off a full flight. And it's a lot cheaper and easier to compensate/redirect one person than a family of four.

You aren't really "bumped". They are legally allowed to oversell the plane. You were never getting on the plane in the first place. They just use weasel wording language like the flight being "full" when they communicate it I did once have an airline offer me something like $1500 USD and 50,000 bonus miles if I was willing to cancel my flight, but that was days in advance.

> You were never getting on the plane in the first place.

Not always the case, you could be physically removed from the plane because the flight is full:

https://www.flyertalk.com/articles/overbooked-united-flight-...

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

#276

"Penalizing solo travelers" is a hell of a spin on quantity discounts. If this isn't click bait what is?

Yup. It's funny how this stuff evolves. You used to see "surcharge for visa" but visa made that illegal. So now you see "discount for cash/debit", and everyone is happy!

Visa isn't happy. But fuck them in particular.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally think it's fair if they charge by weight. The post office does it, why not airlines?

What if larger sizes of clothes were priced higher, since they use more material? I wear a small in almost every case so wouldn't affect me, but man it'd be nerve wracking for a lot of Americans.

They already are?

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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Tbh this makes perfect sense. As someone who worked in airline revenue management for 11 years, it always seemed a little odd that the sales tactics people use everywhere else - group discounts, BOGO, etc - weren't being used by airlines (yes, group bookings could often get discounts, but usually for much larger groups). What's remarkable here is that airlines waited this long to do it. Sad news for me as a usually s…

There are lots of things airlines could offer, that they don't. They are all obsessed with "loyalty", why not sell travelers multi-packs (6 flights over the next 12 months) or subscription-like plans? Why a 24-hour cancellation period even for flights booked months ahead... they could certainly extend that to allow for "low-risk" booking or even charging a small fee for the right to cancel up to, say, 3 months in advance. Auctioning off unsold seats. Selling itineraries with multi-day layovers in a 3rd city (basically adding a second destination to a vacation). Lots more with a bit of creativity.

Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I would guess this is about middle seats. No one wants them but if you’re part of 2+ party you’re much more likely to take one. The alternative is two aisles side by side but those are tricky to get as the plane fills up.

I thought everybody booked aisle and window and left the middle unbooked. If you get lucky, you have an extra seat; if not, the middle seat will almost always be willing to swap for one of the other two and you can still sit together.

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Re: Airlines are charging solo passengers higher fares than groups

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I feel like people are suspending their reasoning in order to maximally shit on airlines in this thread (because yes, they do have a history of predatory pricing practices). The problem with this isn't the difference in prices - charging less for buying in bulk is a normal thing that's probably been done by merchants since the invention of money. The problem with this is the lack of communication. There's no advertis…

Are these discounts compared to prices before the change or did they raise the price for individual travelers?
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