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Re: Suno v4.5

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Oh. Music I know can play repetitively in my mind, which is annoying at sleep time, so I tend to listen to slow music I am not familiar with at bed time. Suno did generate good such music just now for me, even though it failed miserably to generate music for genres I like during daytime. Fascinating.

I have the same thing, really annoying. I can wake up at night at the same song too. I stopped listening music hours before bedtime, but that doesn't always help and I also tend to forget. I'll try out suno for this purpose. What do you use for prompting, if you want to share?

sleep low-beat-rate

sleep slow

Re: Suno v4.5

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Tell me you don't know the first thing about making pictures or music without telling me you don't know the first thing about making pictures or music.

:) I'll bite... https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815c0cb1fd881919867820db3ee3850 https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815c027e10c8191936ac1e86adb5bcd https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815bf6174488191b2b93498059c4352 https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815be7921b4819191544de9f06b336f https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815bf16568081918ef3d26d0572701d https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815c00655888191a717f4ef8f895af3 https://chatgpt.com/s/m_6815c0583198819184c4f01b8fa26ae0 https…

That's not the AI creating art though, that's you using 4o like a pencil. The ideas / creativity came from you, not the AI.

P.S. Do you mind sharing the prompt you used to do the crocodile?

Re: Suno v4.5

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"Wow this song is great! Who's song is this?" "It's AI!" "Oh." I've literally seen this happen, in person. The song doesn't get passed to friends. The artist themselves is the transmission mechanism. > With "Milli Vanilli," they took it to the extreme by having the "musicians" no longer sing themselves This simply proves my point, not detracts from it. You can try to make an AI into an actual human (see Miquela) but…

My wive just discovered the "ambient house p-funk" style on Suno ( https://suno.com/style/ambient%20house%20p-funk ) and listens to it all day, not caring a single second who played it and whether the author is human. And if you look at the developments on Spotify you can well see that most people fetch music by mood or playlist and rarely care about who composed, produced or played the music, even if the meta data a…

I think you keep on missing my point.

It's not that the music itself is bad. I've listened to AI music while coding for example.

But for a piece of art to "take off". It needs to go beyond you. Not only do you need to tell your friends about it, but they need to tell their friends about it, and so on.

And oftentimes during the transmission process you don't even remember the name of the song, but you remember the name of the artist. Skrillex for example.

Humans care about what other humans do. We couldn't care less about what robots do.

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The real potential of tools like Suno isn’t in cranking out radio-ready hits. It’s in creating music that doesn't have commercial incentives to exist. Case in point: Functional Music. I started using it to generate songs that reinforce emotional regulation strategies -things like grounding, breathwork, staying present. Not instructional tracks, which would be unbearable, but actual songs with lyrics that reflect actu…

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Re: Suno v4.5

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AI art is like dreams. I'm amused by my own but never want to hear about anyone else's.

> AI art is like dreams. I'm amused by my own but never want to hear about anyone else's. I don't know. Scrolling the Sora image generations feed is pretty fun. It's got trendy memes, lots of mashups, and cool art. They've also managed to capture social media outrage bait on the platform: conservatives vs. liberals, Christians vs. atheists, and a whole other host of divisive issues that are interspersed throughout th…

Meta's already starting to fluff up their content with AI slop. How is it better when someone else does the same?

Re: Suno v4.5

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The real potential of tools like Suno isn’t in cranking out radio-ready hits. It’s in creating music that doesn't have commercial incentives to exist. Case in point: Functional Music. I started using it to generate songs that reinforce emotional regulation strategies -things like grounding, breathwork, staying present. Not instructional tracks, which would be unbearable, but actual songs with lyrics that reflect actu…

I used Suno to generate rap versions of Feynman's first lecture. It turned out really well! https://suno.com/playlist/d2886382-bcb9-4d6d-8d7a-78625adcbe...

I thought i would hate it, but it's actually really engaging!

Re: Suno v4.5

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Have you heard of "Conscious Rap"? It's the practice of creating rap music around the topics one wants to be educated, and then listening to it ambiently. That subgenre has many tendrils, as people with unrealized lyric talent make raps about politics, finance, how to maintain, and developing critical thinking skills and then in the Conscious Rap social media sharing sites their personal music takes off.

That's new to me! Do you have any recommendations or starting points you could suggest? It's a fascinating use of music

I like going to BandCamp.com and they have a Conscious Rap section, in that section you find all kinds of interesting music. Each band/mc has their own band page, and on those pages they list other sites they can be found and those listings are gold. Tiny little online labels, or just lone artists, and some are not really music artists at all, more like collage audio philosophers.

Re: Suno v4.5

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The real potential of tools like Suno isn’t in cranking out radio-ready hits. It’s in creating music that doesn't have commercial incentives to exist. Case in point: Functional Music. I started using it to generate songs that reinforce emotional regulation strategies -things like grounding, breathwork, staying present. Not instructional tracks, which would be unbearable, but actual songs with lyrics that reflect actu…

This comment is absolutely on point. It is simply fun to listen to songs that are specific to your micro-situation, enjoy them a few times, and then life has moved on. I get it to make little ditties for our customers about how great our products are; about specific moments or events in time, or as little theme songs for projects or releases. It is delightful.

Re: Suno v4.5

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My wive just discovered the "ambient house p-funk" style on Suno ( https://suno.com/style/ambient%20house%20p-funk ) and listens to it all day, not caring a single second who played it and whether the author is human. And if you look at the developments on Spotify you can well see that most people fetch music by mood or playlist and rarely care about who composed, produced or played the music, even if the meta data a…

I think you keep on missing my point. It's not that the music itself is bad. I've listened to AI music while coding for example. But for a piece of art to "take off". It needs to go beyond you. Not only do you need to tell your friends about it, but they need to tell their friends about it, and so on. And oftentimes during the transmission process you don't even remember the name of the song, but you remember the nam…

The music market is likely goint to converge to the following two extreme segments: A) audiences who are mostly interested in idols and lifestyles, where music is merely a means to an end, and B) audiences which are mostly interested in the music itself (either as main act or in the background). For the A) audience, music is actually secondary and more of a supporting function. For the B) audience, the musicians or composers are secondary (i.e. mostly relevant as a source reference for getting more music). Since serivces like Suno have reached an excellent quality level for most genres, it opens rationalization potential for both groups of audiences. The production companies who focus on the A) audience can massively reduce their production costs (i.e. instead of a "ghost composer" and behind-the-scenes musicians they just use generated music); the only obstacle for them to overcome are today's copyright laws which don't protect computer generated music (which I personally still prefer to state-imposed monopolies enabled by patent or copyright law). The audience B) instead has access to an inexhaustible supply of new music that interests them, without having to wait for new releases.

Whether people will still learn an instrument or become musicians is a question that is difficult to answer today. The decline of this profession actually began with the invention of recording technology and has steadily increased since then. It is now almost impossible to make a living from it, and that was already the case before Suno and co. Services such as Spotify have taken anonymization and commodification to the extreme. Nevertheless, people still learn instruments and make music. It may well be that the creative possibilities offered by services such as Suno will even inspire people to make more music again.

Re: Suno v4.5

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Why can't I log in using my own email?!

Why do I need a phone number or use a cloud provider? I don't want to be associated with any of those.

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