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Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by robertlagrant »

idiotsecant wrote: post #242
Derbasti wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finished my 30 day trial the other week, and went back to DDG. After a few days, I realized I didn't miss anything, so I'll happily stay with DDG. Perhaps I'm not a very discerning searcher. Most of my searches are bang-searches of Wikipedia or CPP or Python anyway. Still, I'd be fine with supporting a sustainable search engine. $10/more is a bit too steep for my liking, though, measured against the utility I get f…

10 dollars is like, a sandwich. Access to your search engine for a month is less useful than a sandwich?

$10 is many sandwiches.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by niuzeta »

I've been using Kagi since they first appeared here on hackernews, and I cannot be more impressed with them. The value proposition is crystal clear, and I know what I am getting. I love the customability, and I like that I'm paying for _search_. I'm getting the 2005-2007 Google vibes from them.

I'm wearing my Kagi shirts to tech meetups and I do recommend it to my friends. I wish there would be a better way for me to "refer" a friend, but I like how straightforward they are.

I do recommend Kago. It's a good service and you get what you pay for.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by ac29 »

al_borland wrote: post #92
decimalenough wrote: post #2

> no unwanted AI (but very good AI results if you want — just end your query with a question mark) TIL! I'm a paying Kagi user and I didn't even know this feature existed.

Also worth noting, the Kagi assistant is now available to all paid Kagi users. This gives you conversational chat with a few ChatGPT models, Gemini, Llamas, Nova, Deepseek, and other. https://kagi.com/assistant Additional details on the blog post about it. https://blog.kagi.com/assistant-for-all

> https://kagi.com/assistant

Its subtly annoying that assistant.kagi.com doesnt work but translate.kagi.com does

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by carlosjobim »

Liquix wrote: post #179
neogodless wrote: post #110

About a year ago, I tried the free 300 search trial. I liked it, but wasn't ready to commit to the expense. This year, they offered me a free 30 day unlimited trial, so I'm about 10 days into that. I've only used 128 searches so far. What I seem to find is that I use it, get to what I'm looking for, and move on. So it's not really on my mind. But it's subtly refreshing to spend less time fighting search to get what I…

FWIW it's possible to replace the streaming services with something like Jellyfin+Radarr+Sonarr or Kodi+RealDebrid to cut the bill down to <$50/yr, and you also get access to media on all streaming services. leaves plenty of room in the budget for things that can't be self-hosted (like a proper search engine). some may cite ethical concerns but i don't think HBO execs making money hand over fist are concerned about e…

As long as your time is worth <$50/yr...

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by FrinkleFrankle »

bmacho wrote: post #254
freedomben wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever written software? Especially to manage payments? This is a very plausible bug around a corner case. Maybe they're secretly twirling their evil mustaches figuring out how to scam their previous customers that they're also trying to win back, or maybe sometimes bugs happen.

Having bugs is okay. That particular reply however is gross and controversial on so many levels. If you have a bug at a partner, you don't claim that it is intended and "I do understand how this may be unexpected". If it affects multiple users, you don't do opt-in refunds (which is again, illegal, and is a scam if intentional). > Maybe they're secretly twirling their evil mustaches figuring out how to scam their prev…

Mate. This guy is a software engineer and taking time out of his day to help a client on a forum and explaining why this might happen.. And is also taking the user input back to his employer to hopefully find a way to improve the user experience.

It's also not a scam. If you sign up for a trial that tells you you'll be charged at the end and don't bother to notify yourself.. That's 100% legal, 100% expected and 100% on you. You can argue that it's not a great customer experience.. But again, the engineer understands that.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by pjm331 »

ctvo wrote: post #207

As a long time Kagi user, the thing I miss the most is Google Maps integration for search results. It's nice to search for a restaurant or an address, see results for it, and with one click open up Google Maps to see how to get there and nearby attractions. Google Maps is such a large moat for Google, especially in locations that Apple Maps (the only real alternative) has poor coverage. Outside of that use case, I en…

Yeah that’s the only type of search that I always append the !g to

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by neogodless »

idiotsecant wrote: post #242
Derbasti wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I finished my 30 day trial the other week, and went back to DDG. After a few days, I realized I didn't miss anything, so I'll happily stay with DDG. Perhaps I'm not a very discerning searcher. Most of my searches are bang-searches of Wikipedia or CPP or Python anyway. Still, I'd be fine with supporting a sustainable search engine. $10/more is a bit too steep for my liking, though, measured against the utility I get f…

10 dollars is like, a sandwich. Access to your search engine for a month is less useful than a sandwich?

"It's one banana, Michael. What could it cost, $10?"

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by carlosjobim »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #215
ctvo wrote: post #207

As a long time Kagi user, the thing I miss the most is Google Maps integration for search results. It's nice to search for a restaurant or an address, see results for it, and with one click open up Google Maps to see how to get there and nearby attractions. Google Maps is such a large moat for Google, especially in locations that Apple Maps (the only real alternative) has poor coverage. Outside of that use case, I en…

Would an OpenStreetMap integration be sufficient to replace this functionality?

No, Google Maps is miles ahead of all competitors.

Re: Try Switching to Kagi

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Post by cuu508 »

cosmicgadget wrote: post #238
jwe wrote: post #221

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Same for me. I don't understand why they are not able to cleanly separate themselves from Yandex. Their explanations don't help me understand it but only serve as "we hear you and consciously decide to still fund a Russian company". If anybody reading this is willing to disabuse me of this I'll try to be open for a different perspective.

It's the same as when Russians are asked about the invasion, "I'm not political."

It's worse. Random Russians interviewed on a Moscow street would risk going to jail if they spoke their mind.

Kagi on the other hand is "apolitical" because it is good for business.

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