Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain • Hacker News Board

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by ryan29 » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:38 PM UTC

VWWHFSfQ wrote: post #52

ajdude wrote: post #32

A few years ago I had a .us TLD. I eventually decided that I probably shouldn't be reliant on a country code for my domain, it's the same reason why I don't use .io I'm not saying that this couldn't have happened with a gTLD But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that?

> But why put your brand at the mercy of a government like that? Literally every single TLD is administered by a government. .com itself is under jurisdiction of USA and operated by Verisign

> .com itself is under jurisdiction of USA and operated by Verisign

Barely. The NTIA gave up all their leverage over .com in 2018. The only thing the US can do at this point is let the cooperative agreement auto-renew to limit price increases.

I wouldn't be surprised if the US withdrew from the agreement altogether at this point. Then .com would fall under the joint control of ICANN and Verisign.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by cute_boi » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:39 PM UTC

moomin wrote: post #224

rhubarbtree wrote: post #215

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Fair. They are worse.

Especially Skype, which is getting shit down. In favour of Teams, which is so much worse it’s hard to describe.

We use Skype and it is worst atm. Skype freezes every minute.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by Talanes » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:40 PM UTC

Hobadee wrote: post #247

bakuninsbart wrote: post #194

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It is a one-syllable word, easy to pronounce in many languages, quite distinct from other words and brands, and can easily be turned into a verb.

Verbing your nouns is a great way to lose your trademark.

Are there any actual recent examples of this? The major examples I've always heard are solidly in the 20th century. It's not like Google has had any problem holding their trademark.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by kitchi » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:41 PM UTC

0_gravitas wrote: post #253

imcritic wrote: post #197

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They were probably joking when they asked that question. Your reply doesn't seem sarcastic, so I take it you genuinely r/whoosh'ed (that's a reference to a subreddit about situations where someone is acting clueless).

Realistically, I don't think HN is the place for those kinds of jokes, which are best kept for reddit/twitter.

Yeah I'm increasingly seeing these reddit-style low effort jokes on here, hopefully it's transient as folks acclimatize to the culture and customs here.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by j45 » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:44 PM UTC

rhubarbtree wrote: post #216

j45 wrote: post #181

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Added context: Zoom delivered a step change in video conferencing quality for the many, vs the few, and in a lot of ways did seem to force others to be better. During the pandemic many people used zoom more than their cell phones.

I immediately agreed with this, but at the same time it’s not “fast” is it? It’s higher quality or more reliably, something like that. But emotionally I agree it does feel “faster”.

Fair point - it's smoother video that gives a better quality experience.

The speed of starting a call sometimes could take a bit more but once established was higher quality than the alternatives at the time.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by Galatians4_16 » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:48 PM UTC

This wouldn't happen if it were distributed or decentralized like pre-MS Skype used to be.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by talideon » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 4:51 PM UTC

NewJazz wrote: post #125

dawnerd wrote: post #112

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Wait really? I use a .us domain for personal stuff, that.. makes me want to reconsider.

Also .us domains don't have who is privacy.

WHOIS privacy isn't a registry-level service. It's a registrar-level service.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by busy_m » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 5:06 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

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Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by thayne » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 5:08 PM UTC

Animats wrote: post #85

That seriously devalues MarkMonitor's services. MarkMonitor claims to be a "an ICANN-accredited registrar and recognized industry leader since 1999". The whole point of paying for MarkMonitor is that they're an expensive service for valuable domains and are not allowed to screw up. GoDaddy should not be involved here at all.

Well, another point of MarkMonitor is to get access to ccTLDs with requirements that are more difficult for you to meet yourself. Like needing to have a physical address within the country. MarkMonitor has offices in a bunch of countries just to meet that requirement, so they can sell ccTLD domains to customers.

The legality of that system seems a little questionable to me, but IANAL.

Re: Zoom outage caused by accidental 'shutting down' of the zoom.us domain

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Post by oarsinsync » Thu, Apr 17, 2025, 5:25 PM UTC

subscribed wrote: post #266

chrismorgan wrote: post #136

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>>> This block was the result of a communication error between Zoom’s domain registrar, Markmonitor, and GoDaddy Registry, which resulted in GoDaddy Registry mistakenly shutting down zoom.us domain. That sounds like MarkMonitor is at least partly at fault here.

Mark Monitor have issued a correct request for the `serverUpdateProhibited`, but GoDaddy changed the code to `serverHold` instead. 100% on the GoDaddy staff.

> Mark Monitor have issued a correct request for the `serverUpdateProhibited`, but GoDaddy changed the code to `serverHold` instead.

I’m curious about where are you seeing what Mark Monitor requested? It doesn’t appear in the official status update. Is this public information formally posted somewhere we can all see?