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Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by HexPhantom »

crossroadsguy wrote: post #46

My problem stays the same — finding all my music that is on Spotify from elsewhere. It costs a lot to buy those music files and that too if they are available (which isn’t always the case) and even after I buy I am not sure what were the T&C from that particular place I bought - whether I really own it, I don’t, a bit but not fully - etc. Finding from Linux ISO sites is a nightmare and an extra bad nightmare if we ar…

And like you said, even when you do buy tracks, the T&C are murky. Some platforms basically treat it like a long-term lease rather than true ownership. Honestly, what we need is a modern, ethical "one-click" export + purchase system that lets you grab your current library in lossless format and actually own it.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by chillfox »

Root_Denied wrote: post #218
layoric wrote: post #85

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This reflects a lot of what I've been through as well. My subscriptions exploded when AU got a lot of different streaming platforms, and I think when paramount+ came out and took Star Trek off of another one I drew the line. I realised I still owned all the physical media, so time to make backups. Previous to that I moved off Gmail, that was by far the hardest, and still somewhat ongoing after 8+ years. The hardest t…

>The hardest to kick for me now is YouTube Premium.. And in AU it's like $33/month AUD, but I just can't stand ads. Any reason you're not just running network level AdGuard and Firefox with Ublock Origin to block all ads on your home network? Even just FF+UBO would block YouTube ads. The selfhosted subreddit is also a really good resource to use for interesting things to run.

YouTube is a bit of a problem. I feel like it costs about double of what it should be, but I also think that content creators should be paid, and I absolutely hate ads.

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by HexPhantom »

dhosek wrote: post #17

My strategy for syncing my music library with my phone is that I have four smart playlists: - songs rated 5 stars which I haven’t listened to for at least 8 months¹ - songs rated 4 stars which I haven’t listened to for at least 16 months - songs rated 3 stars which I haven’t listened to for at least 32 months - the 20GB of least-played music (there are some other strictures as well, like eliminating Christmas music a…

Love that you've got archival stuff and Christmas music filtered out - feels like everyone with a big library has a few odd folders that shouldn’t be in regular rotation

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Post by godelski »

flessner wrote: post #116
anthropodie wrote: post #71

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>Self-hosting stuff is awesome if you have the skills. >I have been on a mission for the last 2 years to replace as many subscriptions as possible with self-hosted solutions. I have been doing the same for quite some time now but it's only recently I realized all these subscriptions services are just making rich richer. We should encourage self hosting as much as possible. I mean why should we pay huge corporations m…

For "content subscriptions" (Spotify, YouTube, Netflix) keep in mind that a part of the revenue goes towards the content creators. For anything else, I can also highly recommend using local or self-hosted software. Plenty of open source software has even exceeded proprietary alternatives in the last couple years.

Weird thought, but doesn't some of the stuff the blockchain people do potentially apply here? I'm not talking building a new coin or any of that crap. But rather more about just handling the transactions of plays and a distributed anonymized ledger. Artists can formulate a contract, users pay in and their pay gets distributed proportionally. I'm sure you could add zkps to help protect privacy. Could you get away with "proof of listen"? Could you stream via other users torrent style to move away from a central hub? Hosting and high upload speeds give you discounts. Maybe there's something in this (bad) idea?

I'm really just spitballing here. Seems really difficult to pull off, but what would such a system look like if we didn't design it for profit extraction and instead designed it to cut out all the middlemen? To really just make it as easy as possible for artists to connect to listeners. If we designed it without a desire to get rich

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Post by anthonypz »

someonehere wrote: post #93

If you haven’t been keeping up with Plex, self-hosters like myself and others are up in arms over the client rewrite. It feels like the Sonos update for us. Broken features. Useful functionality removed. UI that’s more streaming focused than self-hosting like it used to be. If you haven’t gone down the Plex path yet, don’t right now as the community and developers sort out their roadmap. Plex seems to be open to feed…

What about their plexamp app for streaming music? It looks pretty nice and seems like a good deal if you purchase the lifetime plan for 50% off during Black Friday.

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Post by ruszki »

benfortuna wrote: post #239
ruszki wrote: post #232

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Do you mean daily mix playlists? From the first 20 songs 17 are something which I added to my library, or listen them regularly. The rest of the 3 songs? 2 of them are from artists whom I listen to regularly. 1 clearly new song. I have very similar rate with “daytime mix”. So which one do you mean? “Discover weekly” and ”release radar” have new songs, yeah. But “radios” are like the previously mentioned playlists.

No none of those. Is a special dynamic playlist, starting to wonder if its not a standard playlist everyone has.. sort of like the DJ mix without the annoying voice. https://open.spotify.com/playlist/37i9dQZF1EP6YuccBxUcC1

It has a very similar rate for me, a little bit better. Btw, there are new songs in every playlist. The problem isn’t that there is none, the problem is priorities, especially with radios.

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Post by switch007 »

fabatka wrote: post #265
layoric wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reflects a lot of what I've been through as well. My subscriptions exploded when AU got a lot of different streaming platforms, and I think when paramount+ came out and took Star Trek off of another one I drew the line. I realised I still owned all the physical media, so time to make backups. Previous to that I moved off Gmail, that was by far the hardest, and still somewhat ongoing after 8+ years. The hardest t…

What about backups? My greatest fear is self-hosting valuable stuff (like family photos) only for my NAS to fail one day and lose potentially everything.

There are good options. Borg, rsync.net with zfs send/recv. Storage boxes from Hetzner

Hard to make a particular recommendation as backing up to the cloud is a popular option but depends on your upload speed and rate of data change. And depends how much you're willing to spend for what tradeoff

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by sandreas »

anthonypz wrote: post #259
sandreas wrote: post #225

I personally use Jellyfin ONLY for Video stuff. AudioBookShelf[1] is for audiobooks and podcasts. For music I use navidrome [2] The smart playlist feature[5] is awesome. Having 3 services instead of one seems overkill, but specialized apps instead of one generic one feels different. One interesting aspect of navidrome is, that it has implemented the Subsonic API, which MANY Apps make use of. My personal favorite is S…

Neat! Can you stream navidrome to a smart TV? I have speakers connected to them and I usually stream to it using airplay on iOS.

Substreamer is available for iOS and Android, DSub is Android only afaik.

If your smartTV supports Subsonic API, it probably works, but if not, it's possible to point Jellyfin and Navidrome to the same audio directory.

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Post by bcraven »

dankwizard wrote: post #95

This article fails to mention the absolute butchering of features that takes place moving from a typical music streaming subscription to a self hosted Jellyfin library. A large part of my listening on YouTube Music is going to a particular song or band I like and clicking "Radio", which generates a playlist of similar sounding songs. You can then fine tune it with a filter i.e "Popular songs, deep cuts" or specific e…

I'd like to shoutout PG Vogt (from Reply All podcasting fame) for this episode of his new show:

https://pjvogt.substack.com/p/how-am-i-supposed-to-find-new-...

Re: Jellyfin as a Spotify alternative

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Post by switch007 »

russelg wrote: post #124
smj-edison wrote: post #103

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What do you do for backups? I'm just setting up an Emby instance with a 4 TB hard drive attached, but I'm worried it'll fail and take everything with it.

Is there really a point in backing up media? Unless you've ripped it yourself, I'm sure anything you have is easily obtainable again.

Yeah my TV/movies drive is just mergerfs of two drives. I view it as a cache but I'm lucky to have a gigabit connection.

Anything I want to keep I'll make a specific decision and move it to my RAID1 drive which is backed up off-site.

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