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Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by roenxi »

IshKebab wrote: post #264
roenxi wrote: post #209

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Sure you can. Red rose in a field of green for example. Human eyes evolved to see the colours the way they do precisely because they were working in a world where nearly everything is colourful and some things needed to stand out.

A field of green is not colourful. > Possessing prominent and varied colors.

Have you looked at a field recently? Spot the flowers: https://wallpapercave.com/field-of-flowers-wallpaper - I'm not sure what you call colourful; but I call those colourful. The flowers are still hard to miss. The colour makes them more obvious.

If you want a more academic source; try https://www.stat.auckland.ac.nz/~ihaka/courses/120/Lectures/... slides 13 & 14. Colour isn't some random distraction, the human vision system uses it to help decide what to focus on. Then you get things like peacocks where they go all in on using colourful visualisations to attract attention.

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Post by troupo »

crazygringo wrote: post #204
troupo wrote: post #178

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> The drained-color thing is exclusive to a certain type of TV/movie drama It's not. There's even a term coined for it, "intangible sludge". https://www.vox.com/culture/22840526/colors-movies-tv-gray-d... > I don't like it much but you can also just not watch that stuff. It's now permeated everything, so it's hard to not watch stuff, as it's everywhere, with few exceptions.

> It's not. There's even a term coined for it, "intangible sludge". It is. The article you link even begins: > So many TV shows and movies now That's what I'm taking about. Those "so many" belong mostly to a certain type of drama. You're not seeing it in comedies. You're not seeing it in reality shows. There are also plenty of dramas that don't have it, possibly a majority but I'm not sure. It's not everywhere, contr…

> The article you link even begins: "So many TV shows and movies now"

and from this you somehow deduce "hose "so many" belong mostly to a certain type of drama."

Where "certain type of drama" is anything from procedurals to action, from drama to fantasy.

> It may, however, seem "everywhere" if you're only watching that type of drama.

Where the article uses the following "certain type of drama" examples: Justice League, Dexter. Definitely they both fall into the category of "the same type of drama".

> You're not seeing it in comedies.

As in: modern comedies are washed out and desaturated more often than not. For every Barbie there's a dozen Red Notices

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by rowanG077 »

r14c wrote: post #156
rowanG077 wrote: post #19

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I don't think anyone would argue the point of cars is to look pretty or make the environment more balanced. Cars are successful in spite of looking like shit and damaging the environment.

the history of cars in the US is pretty complicated tbh. most major cities had street cars and rail systems for a long time before major government initiatives ripped them out in favor of highways and streets. I'm not sure cars would be as popular without that major push towards car-centric infrastructure.

Of course. If you can't drive a car anywhere cars would not be as popular. That doesn't sound like rocket science to me.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by crazygringo »

anigbrowl wrote: post #265
crazygringo wrote: post #236

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Well yes, in practice color often is chaotic. Nobody is color-coordinating the cars in the road, or the houses on a street, or the signs and advertisements and billboards. It's a free-for-all that turns into garish noise. And more neutral environments with accent colors makes sense because the main accent is always people and their clothing. Your patterned red dress won't clash with a neutral background. It will like…

I don't want to live in a bland environment hoping some random colorful person will walk in to accent it, though.

Obviously it depends.

A room always full of people might not need much decoration.

In a private office, you might want to hang a colorful painting and have some colorful knick-knacks, or a colorful sofa.

You figure out the right amount of color accents for you. But without overwhelming the senses by painting the whole room bright orange, you know?

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by crazygringo »

troupo wrote: post #272
crazygringo wrote: post #204

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> It's not. There's even a term coined for it, "intangible sludge". It is. The article you link even begins: > So many TV shows and movies now That's what I'm taking about. Those "so many" belong mostly to a certain type of drama. You're not seeing it in comedies. You're not seeing it in reality shows. There are also plenty of dramas that don't have it, possibly a majority but I'm not sure. It's not everywhere, contr…

> The article you link even begins: "So many TV shows and movies now" and from this you somehow deduce "hose "so many" belong mostly to a certain type of drama." Where "certain type of drama" is anything from procedurals to action, from drama to fantasy. > It may, however, seem "everywhere" if you're only watching that type of drama. Where the article uses the following "certain type of drama" examples: Justice Leagu…

No I'm not deducing anything, I'm speaking from my experience in television.

Yes, the type of drama does include the range you're describing. Movies are mixes of genres, tones, categories.

And no, modern comedies are not desaturated "more often than not". I don't know what comedies you're watching, but it's not the case.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by crazygringo »

lupusreal wrote: post #248
crazygringo wrote: post #127

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The drained-color thing is exclusive to a certain type of TV/movie drama, and then also a serious technical problem involving HDR device-side (which is a whole other story). But if you watch any comedy, or reality show, or plenty of "normal" dramas, on a regular TV, the color is normal. However, yes, there has been a certain trend involving Christopher Nolan, "gritty realism", and legal-political-military-crime theme…

> The drained-color thing is exclusive to a certain type of TV/movie drama You're absolutely wrong, it happened to video games too. The industry defended it by saying it made games look more "realistic", but have since backed off after consumers revolted and dubbed the aesthetic "piss filter." Started in the mid 00s, went strong for about a decade and still persists to a lesser degree today. Only designers like it, c…

I meant a certain type within TV/movies. As opposed to other types of TV/movies.

I can't speak to video games, but of course it would make sense it would apply to dramatic video games as well.

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Post by crazygringo »

lofaszvanitt wrote: post #249
crazygringo wrote: post #166

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Jungles are actually a great example. They are mostly neutral browns and dark greens that form a pretty neutral background... with the occasional beautiful bright accent colors from a bird or flower or something. But if you trek through the jungle, it's pretty boring color-wise most of the time. Which is why spotting a colorful bird is such a joy. But can you please take the personal attacks elsewhere? HN is not the…

no personal attacks. attacks against idiotic oversimplifications. do not hide behind some weeny invisible bs wall you erected

> Where do you live, in a cave?

That's a personal attack.

Please review the HN guidelines.

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by troupo »

crazygringo wrote: post #275
troupo wrote: post #272

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> The article you link even begins: "So many TV shows and movies now" and from this you somehow deduce "hose "so many" belong mostly to a certain type of drama." Where "certain type of drama" is anything from procedurals to action, from drama to fantasy. > It may, however, seem "everywhere" if you're only watching that type of drama. Where the article uses the following "certain type of drama" examples: Justice Leagu…

No I'm not deducing anything, I'm speaking from my experience in television. Yes, the type of drama does include the range you're describing. Movies are mixes of genres, tones, categories. And no, modern comedies are not desaturated "more often than not". I don't know what comedies you're watching, but it's not the case.

> Yes, the type of drama does include the range you're describing

When your "certain type of drama" covers every genre under the sun, and you pretend that Dexter and Justice League are somehow the dame type of genre, excuse me for bot taking your words seriously.

> I don't know what comedies you're watching, but it's not the case.

Whatever comes across my radar.

BTW it's also quite telling how in your classification there's "certain type of drama" (90% of genres apparently) that is susceptible to the sludge, and then comedies and reality shows (the only two you could come up with that are not. Even though comedies, especially movies, are often just as drab and gray as every other genre)

Re: Why is the world losing color?

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Post by spicybbq »

legitster wrote: post #76

May I make a case for brown? - Brown is an extremely warm color, and sucks up all of the ugly blues from unnatural light sources - Brown pairs well with all sorts of shades and colors, just like the millennial gray and white tones - Brown can come in all sorts of shades and vibrancies, but is not as stimulating as other colors - Brown hides dirt, scuffs, and stains extremely well Humans have spent most of our history…

I figure Earth tones will make a comeback at some point, but it will need a different style than the cream and travertine tan colors of the late 90s and 2000s. In 2025, new homes in my area are still built with the white/grey/black palette.

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Post by sixothree »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #163
sixothree wrote: post #152

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Literally every vehicle seems to have that diagonal line incorporated somewhere. I mean the one generally near the windows that slopes downward as it moves towards the front of the car, regardless of the general shape of the car itself.

Not sure which diagonal line you mean but I expect some creases are added for structural reasons, so the large areas of the metal are rigid, not floppy.

Just do an image search for the word "sedan" or pay attention in traffic. It's an exterior panel so I don't think it can be very much structural. Maybe aerodynamics though.

Once you see it you can't unsee it and it starts to look very ugly very fast.

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