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Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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In before people post contradictory anecdotes. It would be more helpful if people posted the prompt, and the entire context, or better yet the conversation, so we can all judge for ourselves.

This is the issue with these kind of discussions on HN. “It worked great for me” or “it sucked for me” without enough context. You just need to try it yourself to see if it’ll work for your use case.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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Any way you can back up that Copilot is a flop?

Lots of articles on it... and I am not even talking about competitors like Benioff [1]. I am talking about user complaints like this [2]. Users expect Copilot to be fully integrated, like Cursor is into VSCode. Instead what you get is barely better than typing into standalone AI chats like Claude.AI. [1] https://www.cio.com/article/3586887/marc-benioff-rails-again... [2] https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/discussion…

The linked complaint is specifically about Microsoft Copilot, which despite the name is completely unrelated to the original GitHub Copilot. VS Code's integrated GitHub Copilot nowadays has the Copilot Edits feature, which can actually edit, refactor and generate files for you using a variety of models, pretty much exactly like Cursor.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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> the cynicism isn't out of fear or panic, its disappointment over and over and over Very much this. When you criticize LLM's marketing, people will say you're a ludite. I'd bet that no one actually likes to write code, as in typing into an editor. We know how to do it, and it's easy enough to enter in a flow state while doing it. But everyone is trying to write less code by themselves with the proliferation of reusa…

>I'd bet that no one actually likes to write code And you'd be wrong. I, for one, enjoy the process of handcrafting the individual mechanisms of the systems I create.

Do you like writing all the if, def, public void, import keywords? That is what I’m talking about. I prefer IDE for java and other verbose languages because of the code generation. And I configure my editors for templates and snippets because I don’t like to waste time on entering every single character (and learned vim because I can act on bigger units; words, lines, whole blocks).

I like programming, I do not like coding.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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I use cursor agent mode with claude on my NextJS frontend and Typescript GraphQL backend. It's a real, reasonably sized, production app that's a few years old (pre-ChatGPT). I vibe code the vast majority features nowadays. I generally don't need to write a single line of code. It often makes some mistakes but the agent figures out that the tests fail, or it doesn't build, fixes it, and basically "one shots" it after…

When you say "vibe code" do you mean the true definition of that term, which is to blindly accept any code generated by the AI, see if it works (maybe agent mode does this) and move on to the next feature? Or do you mean prompt driven development, where although you are basically writing none of the code, you are still reading every line and maintain high involvement in the code base?

Kind of in between. I accept a lot of code without ever seeing it, but I check the critical stuff that could cause trouble. Or stuff that I know the AI is likely to mess up.

Specifically for the front end I mostly vibe code, and for the backend I review a lot of the code.

I will often follow up with prompts asking it to extract something to a function, or to not hardcode something.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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I think he's talking about Microsoft Copilot 365, not the coding assistant. Makes one wonder how much they are offering to the owner of www.copilot.com and why on God's green earth they would abandon the very strong brand name "Office" and www.office.com

Had to lookup office.com myself to see it; their office package is literally called MS Copilot.

It gets worse, actually. My comment was inaccurate because it could also be the windows assistant outside of MS Office.

At this point, Occam's Razor dictates companies must make these terribly confusing branding choices on purpose. It has to be by design.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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Sorry for the noob question, but claude has claudecode, does Gemini Pro work with any software in the same way "claudecode" works? If so what software would I use with it? Thank you.

Aider is worth a look.

The current rate limits for Gemini 2.5 Pro make it hard to run something like Claude Code with it, since that tool is very API chatty.

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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>> This is the smoothest tom sawyer move I've ever seen IRL That made me laugh. True, but not really the motivation. I honestly don't think LLMs can code significant real-world things yet and I'm not sure how else to prove that since they can code some interesting things. All the talk about putting programmers out of work has me calling BS but also thinking "show me". This task seems like a good combination of simple…

I agree. I tried something similar: a conversion of a simple PHP library from one system to another. It was only like 500 loc but Gemini 2.5 completely failed around line 300, and even then its output contained straight up hallucinations, half-brained additions, wrong namespaces for dependencies, badly indented code and other PSR style violations. Worse, it also changed working code and broke it.

Did you paste it into the chat or did you use it with a coding agent like Cline?

I am majorly impressed with the combination VSCode + Cline + Gemini

Today I had it duplicate an esp32 proram from UDP communication to TCP.

It first copied the file ( funnily enough by writing it again instead of just straight cp ) Then it started to just change all the headers and declarations Then in a third step it changed one bigger function And in the last step it changed some smaller functions

And it reasoned exactly that way "Let's start with this first ... Let's now do this .... " until is was done

Re: Gemini 2.5 Pro vs. Claude 3.7 Sonnet: Coding Comparison

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Sorry for the noob question, but claude has claudecode, does Gemini Pro work with any software in the same way "claudecode" works? If so what software would I use with it? Thank you.

Most people use Cursor. Aider and Cline are other options. All of these work with all of the popular LLM APIs. Even among people using Claude, I would bet more of them are using Claude through Cursor than through Claude code.
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