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Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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This is literally nothing - visualizing an org chart using D3 (a JS dataviz library), playing around with open source geospatial datasets, and a Twitter DM downloader for personal use. Look at the screenshots, not the description by this "politics reporter" who seems to be indulging in evidence-free witch hunts.

Exactly, these look like baby’s first JavaScript projects. Surprising considering these doge employees are supposed to be genius coder whiz kids, and yet this looks like the work of someone following a tutorial to write their first tweet downloader.

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Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Right, well ... the DOGE staffers (which assumes they are actually employed) seem to be primarily focused on contract decisions and execution.

If they are just data analysis and gathering, that's not exactly contract negotiation.

> they are just data analysis and gathering

They are not. They de facto cancelled contracts while rooting around at the Treasury. Given the lack of transparency at DOGE, it’s unclear how the front-line bros can claim they were following official instructions versus making calls on their own.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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From the perspective of wanting to maintain the integrity of the American federal government, it seems like all this DOGE stuff (and the whole Trumpist movement in general) serves the purpose of a red team, in the cybersecurity sense; people with nebulous intent have gotten access to everything.

So now, if Americans care about the integrity of their government, there needs to be a blue team: how can this catastrophic level of access be dealt with, and how can it be safeguarded against in the future. Alas, I'm not seeing this perspective being enacted. The obvious security compromise is being allowed to stand and continue, usually on the basis that "separation of powers" and "checks and balances" are relied on to be effective; congress will stop this, or the courts will stop this. But we're watching these mechanisms fail.

So, what's the plan here? Where's the counter-offensive? We're watching a system being hacked, and I've yet to see anyone talk about a recovery plan, or a prevention plan.

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Afghanistan has that. Instead of landlords, they have warlords, just a different term for the same thing. Why is anybody interested in repeating that thing? I've been told that billionaires think differently than the rest of us, but I still can't fathom why someone would want to be the king of a shit hole when they could be richer as a regular citizen of a liberal democracy. Why do they hate our success?

Billionaires are transnational; they can live wherever they want. The only thing tying them to a particular country is that country's restrictions on their capital flows. They don't really care if it's a liberal democracy or not, they just want the lowest taxes and free movement of capital. If an area becomes undesirable to live in, they'll move somewhere else.

But there needs to be a somewhere else, i.e., they still depend on the liberal democracies for any quality of life above bare subsistence. While they point the finger at those democracies for being decadent and corrupt.

They needed to maintain the claim that democracy should be destroyed, in order to prop up their ideologies, without actually going ahead and destroying it. Oops.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Afghanistan has that. Instead of landlords, they have warlords, just a different term for the same thing. Why is anybody interested in repeating that thing? I've been told that billionaires think differently than the rest of us, but I still can't fathom why someone would want to be the king of a shit hole when they could be richer as a regular citizen of a liberal democracy. Why do they hate our success?

I would suggest you read “Anatomy of the State” by Murray Rothbard. I don’t want to sound rude but your comment is what people say when they haven’t read anything about it. I used to make similar arguments like was at the top of your comment until I actually read some literature around it.

Which state is it about? Can't I just read history, and the news?

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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post #256

This is literally nothing - visualizing an org chart using D3 (a JS dataviz library), playing around with open source geospatial datasets, and a Twitter DM downloader for personal use. Look at the screenshots, not the description by this "politics reporter" who seems to be indulging in evidence-free witch hunts.

Exactly, these look like baby’s first JavaScript projects. Surprising considering these doge employees are supposed to be genius coder whiz kids, and yet this looks like the work of someone following a tutorial to write their first tweet downloader.

Does being a 'genius coder whiz kid' imply knowledge of every technology? Should one only be allowed to publish code according to your standards? What kind of nonsense is this?

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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Implying that DOGE bozo is law-compliant while breaking laws and destroying trust is...humor too soon?

What functional, diplomatic purpose exists for calling him a "bozo"? What problems does this solve? Which tensions does this ease? Which conflicts does this stop? What sensitive government data does this un-leak? Which broken laws does this adjudicate? What usurped power is being brought back under control with this? Or is it just contributing to a one-way ratchet that only ever increases partisan polarization and ho…

What makes you think that problems will be solved by de-escalation?

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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How dare we call the vindictive, spiteful, name calling president currently destroying our country names! > weaponization of government against conservatives The government is clearly being weaponized against anyone who has ever opposed Trump in any way. You are in a reality tunnel.

The OP is not. He’s calling someone working on a project, posting his code to GitHub names. The correct response in a democratic society to people attacking political enemies as enemies of the state, spreading untruths, attacking the rule of law, and acting like assholes is _to not do these these things_.

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Whatever they promised and people voted for by believing in those promises. People wanted a strong man, and they basically got it. I understand markets can be irrational blah blah, but still surprised how people with money aren’t shipping it away or storing it somewhere more safe looking at the current situation.

I would frame that as being motivated to satisfy their base, vs being motivated to succeed. Success usually has a positive connotation, and they don't seem to be doing a particularly good job if you take the "reduce the size of the government" goal at face value (they are making messes everywhere they go, with the government shrinking slower than normal attrition...).

Success is subjective and is defined by common people’s expectation in this scenario.

Re: A DOGE staffer appears to be posting DOGE work on his public GitHub

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How dare we call the vindictive, spiteful, name calling president currently destroying our country names! > weaponization of government against conservatives The government is clearly being weaponized against anyone who has ever opposed Trump in any way. You are in a reality tunnel.

The OP is not. He’s calling someone working on a project, posting his code to GitHub names. The correct response in a democratic society to people attacking political enemies as enemies of the state, spreading untruths, attacking the rule of law, and acting like assholes is _to not do these these things_.

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