"Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" - ah, one of those Government things where the title is exactly what it is not. "Department of Justice", there's another.
"Ensuring Accountability for All Agencies" – Executive Order
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Don't you mean that free speech is going on?
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#274This new administration lays bare what we've known all along - the legislative gridlock and dysfunction in the house of representatives and senate has made them completely incapable of governing -- the least productive in a generation. This is opened up an opportunity for a well funded strongman, and the checks and balances that were intended to protect our democracy are now mere suggestions.
> legislative gridlock and dysfunction
Isn't this a direct result of "no compromise" policies on one side of the aisle?
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
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> The exact same rhetoric was used from 2016 to 2020, even before Trump was elected the first time.
Awesome false equivalence, exaggeration, and straight disinformation, considering that 60%-70% of Republican respondents in multiple surveys believed that Trump was the real winner of the 2020 election [1].
> Two Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research polls conducted in February and July 2021 found that two-thirds of Republican respondents believe Biden was illegitimately elected in 2020.
> A January 2021 Morning Consult survey of 1,990 registered voters nationwide showed 65% responded that they believe the 2020 election was "free and fair." But when those results were broken down by party affiliation, only one-third of Republicans were in agreement with that statement. When asked what sources helped lead them to believe the election was fraudulent, a majority of Republicans cited former President Donald Trump, who has repeatedly claimed without evidence that his loss was not legitimate.
The 60%-70% figure persisted as late as June 2022 [2].
> With remarkable consistency, a scant one-quarter of Republican voters tell pollsters that Biden won legitimately. That was the view they shared in the spring of 2021, and the fraction remains about the same today.
> Agree that Biden was legitimately elected
> Poll Date All Democrat Republican Independent
> Economist/YouGov Jun. 1, 2022 60% 90% 25% 57%
Both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris conceded defeat in a day, Trump has been complaining about the 2020 election for years (still does), and Trump voters prepared for months to avoid certifying the 2024 results if they were to turn out badly for Trump [3]. Trump also attempted a fake electors plot to overturn the 2020 election [4].
[1] https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/feb/02/viral-imag...
[2] https://www.politifact.com/article/2022/jun/14/most-republic...
[3] https://www.propublica.org/article/2024-election-certificati...
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#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's complex. Obama may have deported lots of people, but Trump famously used the same institutions to detain and torture minors indefinitely... Which of those is "harder" against immigration? It's the same issue that is happening now. Biden deported a lot more people, but he focused on people entering the US or caught doing something. Trump is deporting a low fewer people, but he randomly taking people from their ho…
So in other words his supporters are a bunch of sadistic idiots who would rather see kindergartners tortured than a cartel member deported into custody because it means a hard tough man is in charge!
Hum...
Maybe it's more a case of rampant mathematical illiteracy all over the press and people paying more attention to extraordinary events. I really don't know.
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#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
The actual answer here is to exercise actual power. Oligarchs are always greatly outnumbered. The only thing that is genuinely effective is mass movement. A coalition of labor unions could shut down all of Elon and Trumps businesses in hours. Block the entrances to the factories. General strikes, boycotts, that kind of thing. It’s not actually that complicated. Instead the modern Democratic Party is in love with appe…
What the modern Democratic Party knows, but understandably doesn’t go around trumpeting, is that they cannot organize mass collective action because there’s not enough people on their side. You talk about “a coalition of labor unions”, but even union members barely lean Democratic these days. There’s very few groups outside of the Democratic Party infrastructure which are polarized enough to take a side.
I'm confused. 75 million people voted Democrat in the last election. That's quite a few people on their side?
And I'm not sure it's a fair assessment to say union members 'barely' lean Democrat https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/10/17/key-facts...
> There’s very few groups outside of the Democratic Party infrastructure which are polarized enough to take a side.
The last 2 presidential elections saw the highest turnouts since 1968. It seems like people aren't having a problem picking sides.
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#278This new administration lays bare what we've known all along - the legislative gridlock and dysfunction in the house of representatives and senate has made them completely incapable of governing -- the least productive in a generation. This is opened up an opportunity for a well funded strongman, and the checks and balances that were intended to protect our democracy are now mere suggestions.
Was with you 100% until the second half of your final sentence. Can you clarify?
A bit hyperbolic on my part but I think Trump and Elon are quite a potent combination for the money and media influence they have between them. Members of congress and senators with opposing views are very unlikely to stick their heads up for fear of the immense amount of money that could be used against them in the midterms and beyond.
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#279This EO, combined with his proclamation that "He who saves the country does not violate any law" paint a very concerning picture. This has, historically speaking, been the language of tyrants. No President is above the law, nor does the President "interpret" the law; that is the domain of the Judiciary. “Wherever law ends, tyranny begins”
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#280This new administration lays bare what we've known all along - the legislative gridlock and dysfunction in the house of representatives and senate has made them completely incapable of governing -- the least productive in a generation. This is opened up an opportunity for a well funded strongman, and the checks and balances that were intended to protect our democracy are now mere suggestions.
> legislative gridlock and dysfunction Isn't this a direct result of "no compromise" policies on one side of the aisle?
Right, democrats were ALWAYS looking for compromise. Hell, democrats have to compromise with their own party!
If you doubt me, simply go read votes from the past 20 years, and compare it with say 1960-1980. Republicans do not cross the aisle anymore.
The interesting part is that at some point republicans had so propagandized their voters against the very concept of governance that "Elect me to office for the next 6 years and I promise nothing will get done" was a decades long strategy that worked! The more republicans obstructed, including preventing republican voters from getting things they claim to want, the more republicans got voted in. For decades now, republicans that compromise with democrats have been primaried by less collaborative republicans.
Imagine a judge getting elected for insisting they will never hear another case!
None of this should be controversial, republican politicians have literally stated this as their goal and promise.