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Post by BenjiWiebe »

chefandy wrote: post #115
SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #7

We're watching the ultimate destructive expression of the comp sci "oh, we can just automate that" hubris.

Thought process: “In theory auditing a government agency is simple. I can write assembly for a computer with millions of moving parts. How hard could it be to debug an organization with twenty thousand employees that need support to configure their own email? I spent literally two weeks watching accounting channels on YouTube, so with my mighty developer ultrabrain, this should be a snap. If only developers had time…

Can't speak to doctors, but I've been a mechanic and yes there's some large overlap in debugging skills between a good mechanic and a programmer, a mindset of wanting to understand how things work, and breaking down the problem into manageable parts.

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Post by lrdd »

lesuorac wrote: post #110
pas wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look for politicians (in your district and state) who are already active, pick the one who seems to be not a useless parrot (but also not someone who doesn't get the big picture), and ask them how can you help them, how can you support their efforts. The good playbook consists of rebooting the D party. (Which lost the election because it did not understand what the majority wants, and how to authentically offer somet…

Rebooting the D party is unnecessary. Losing only by 1.5% in an election where globally nearly every _incumbent_ lost is pretty good. In the UK, the incumbents lost 20% of their seats [1]. The democrats lost 2 seats in the senate [2] and _gained_ 2 seats in the house [3]. Making drastic changes to a party because you narrowly lost an election with a candidate that never won a primary is dumb. [1]: https://en.wikipedi…

It was worse than that in the UK! The incumbent party lost 69% of their seats (20% was the vote share).

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Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by kcplate »

intended wrote: post #255
kcplate wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Complicit” is an interesting word choice here—as if a non-voter is somehow responsible for wrongdoing? What “wrong” was done here? Trump won because he was democratically elected by every measure we have, both popular vote and electoral college. If your candidate lost it’s because they didn’t earn the votes, have the message, or created the reason for that non-voter to vote for them. The candidate and campaign are m…

Thats a poor reading of the effort the Republicans have put into ensuring they win. Firstly, its not because of reasons that people win in America, not anymore. People didnt know that the ACA was Obamacare, or that Biden dropped out . Fox and the GOP created an orwellian political power that has parasitized democratic processess. Classic example would be climate change, in the 90s, when FOX was created. Fox platforme…

No offense but my comment was a response to the suggestion that someone who didn’t vote somehow committed wrongdoing. Not sure how a diatribe against the “evils” of the GOP voter persuasion machine speaks much to that. It’s obvious to me both parties denigrate the other candidate through media and publicity.

My decision to not vote for Harris boiled down to my opinion that she failed in her one duty as VP, which was to effectively step in and govern in the event that Biden was unable to function as president. That much was painfully obvious during his debate, which exposed her dereliction of duty.

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Post by lesuorac »

intended wrote: post #258
ceejayoz wrote: post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're a marathon runner, and you lose to another marathon runner, that's OK. If you're a marathon runner, and you lose to a toddler, that's probably not. The Dems fought an eminently beatable candidate and lost, and they continue to struggle with messaging now (stop putting Schumer up there to deliver it!). They flubbed the response to Dobbs, the consultant class nixed the Harris campaign parts that were working…

How you frame a problem, determines what solution you are going to find. I went over many assumptions after the elections, to understand what I had missed. But things changed when I asked a different question. Its not a question of how Harris lost. Its a question of how Trump ran in the first place. With that change, things clicked into place.

Decades of ignoring existing anti-trust laws leading to large conglomerates with monopolistic pricing power?

Unfriendly labor rulings like the time you spend in mandatory employer required security screenings doesn't count as paid time?

Do share with the class what you think is special about Trump running consider he's done it for 4 elections [1] and considered it against Obama (you may remember the whole birther movement).

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_presidential_camp...

Re: DOGE staffer is trying to reroute FEMA funds

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Post by bdangubic »

lesuorac wrote: post #110
pas wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Look for politicians (in your district and state) who are already active, pick the one who seems to be not a useless parrot (but also not someone who doesn't get the big picture), and ask them how can you help them, how can you support their efforts. The good playbook consists of rebooting the D party. (Which lost the election because it did not understand what the majority wants, and how to authentically offer somet…

Rebooting the D party is unnecessary. Losing only by 1.5% in an election where globally nearly every _incumbent_ lost is pretty good. In the UK, the incumbents lost 20% of their seats [1]. The democrats lost 2 seats in the senate [2] and _gained_ 2 seats in the house [3]. Making drastic changes to a party because you narrowly lost an election with a candidate that never won a primary is dumb. [1]: https://en.wikipedi…

this may appear reasonable but every single state swayed to the right. and country elected the most corrupt and degenerate person that ever lived on this planet. so you can look at this from “numbers” perspective till the Sun goes down but Democrats have fully lost their way and need a full reboot. shit they have been selling no one is buying anymore and GOP candidate in 2028 will be a lot less of a fraud/felon/… than in 2024.

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Post by alsoforgotmypwd »

janice1999 wrote: post #251
diggan wrote: post #30

> DOGE is also working with a FEMA IT Specialist and a grant director, according to Drop Site’s reporting. “Everyone is complying. Everyone is afraid to lose their jobs,” sources within FEMA told Drop Site. They describe the situation as FEMA employees following a “chain of command and that leads to DOGE even though they’re not part of it.” This is how a democracy slowly falls into fascism. Not because it's a overnig…

It's difficult to resist when it means likely losing your job and not being about to afford rent or your mortgage.

There are several character qualities more important than immediate personal comfort.

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Post by slt2021 »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #97
tyleo wrote: post #8

Is there anything we can do? I don’t mean to ask that and imply that there is nothing. I mean it as an honest question. Is there a process or organization to snap into right now to help?

Isn't this what you guys have the second amendment for? To secure a free state?

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Post by alsoforgotmypwd »

SketchySeaBeast wrote: post #7

We're watching the ultimate destructive expression of the comp sci "oh, we can just automate that" hubris.

Automation of dangerous judgement or management decisions is never something a computer should ever do. It's also the cargo cult of worshipping technology as a panacea for social and organizational problems that is itself a problem. Furthermore, the lack of resistance amongst the apolitical functionaries is depressing. I have a bit of hope though that the rage and the furious, righteous anger of federal judges will compel the US Marshal Service to do what is necessary to restore real law and order, and that the DOJ's new flunky won't be able to stop ethical, professional execution of their sacred duty.

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Post by ipython »

alsoforgotmypwd wrote: post #276
janice1999 wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's difficult to resist when it means likely losing your job and not being about to afford rent or your mortgage.

There are several character qualities more important than immediate personal comfort.

Affording to feed your family and put a stable roof over their heads is a bit more than “immediate personal comfort”.
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