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Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by huhtenberg »

BossingAround wrote: post #116
yreg wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the streaming services did this, I would probably have a lot more of them.

If the streaming services did this, I'd probably have pretty much all of them. Then, instead of paying monthly, you essentially have a tab open with everyone, and you pay for whatever you stream. Indeed, this would make me way less annoyed at the thousand and one streaming services popping up like mushrooms after a rainy day.

It's a very slippery path towards per-watch pricing with "rent this episode for just $0.99"... and that will be horrible.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by thoroughburro »

yegg wrote: post #239
ajdude wrote: post #136

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That's a big reason for me too; when I remember when DuckDuckGo blocked "tank Man" a couple years ago, at that point that I considered DDG compromised: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27394925 I get a lot out of their regex redirect for their search results, notably redirecting reddit to old.reddit -- a lifesaver when searching on mobile.

We never blocked this image and we would have no incentive to either since we’ve been banned in China since 2014. Here’s my statement from back then: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27528324

You forgot to reply in that thread with a justification for saying DDG is not, effectively, just Bing. Would you like to share numbers this time, or back down? ;)

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by KomoD »

eitland wrote: post #268

Tangentially related: Whenever I mention Kagi is actually better, someone will claim the opposite. So yesterday someone here said something along the lines of: "With apologies to Bill Buxton every user interface is best at something and worst at something else". So I started looking on Kagi and only found a few results, even if I took parts of it, but I narrowed it down to that the original must have been about "ever…

I get 2 results from that Kagi link and they're both what I'd consider to be spam.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by jgalt212 »

scott_w wrote: post #204
fnord123 wrote: post #82

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More importantly you can tell investors you have even more accounts than you do and your churn rate is very low.

> More importantly you can tell investors you have even more accounts than you do and your churn rate is very low. I know you're being a little facetious but it is actually a benefit. Many companies have implemented subscription pausing to reduce churn. The reason is pretty straightforward good business: it's easier to reactivate customers who lay dormant for 1 or 2 months than it is to let them churn and have to re-…

Fair enough, but as far as your investors are concerned you're changing the definition of churn. I'm sure if they ask, they'll be provided with "pause" metrics, but such data will never see the light of day in any marketing materials.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by indymike »

dirkc wrote: post #75

This makes sense, if someone isn't using your service for a month, chances are good that they are going to cancel soon. Maybe they'll keep on paying for another few months, but if they're not using it, they're not getting any value from it. So rather than getting them to cancel, pause their subscription. You don't have to deal with cancellations, and if/when the user does return, you are one step further than you wou…

Forcing people to pay for something they are not using is a time bomb. This is a good thing and we should all be looking at how to do this.

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by Novosell »

mbix77 wrote: post #235
cuu508 wrote: post #157

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https://kagifeedback.org/d/5445-reconsider-yandex-integratio...

Calling the invasion of Ukraine and the killing of hundreds of thousands people, targeting kindergartens, hospitals, normal civilians, destabilizing an entire continent --> "politics". "any search source we consider using goes through rigorous evaluation process that considers: result quality, API availability, economic viability, result latency, legal terms, privacy terms, and technical feasibility. the moment 'poli…

What else would you call it?

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by joseda-hg »

scott_w wrote: post #208
BossingAround wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the streaming services did this, I'd probably have pretty much all of them. Then, instead of paying monthly, you essentially have a tab open with everyone, and you pay for whatever you stream. Indeed, this would make me way less annoyed at the thousand and one streaming services popping up like mushrooms after a rainy day.

I... really like this idea. It's an interesting problem and something that a challenger service could possibly use (assuming they can resolve potential cash flow issues around content licensing). From an incumbents' perspective, it's less desirable since the fact I already have Netflix, Crunchyroll, Amazon Prime, Apple TV makes me less inclined to add Disney+ or a new service to my list of monthly outgoings.

There's a separate cash flow problem on doing this, a big chuck of the expected revenue comes from people that setup the subscription and forget about it

I tend to care lot less on keeping something like dropout even if I don't use it all the time (I like to think I contribute keeping it afloat, and watch it whenever), but I cancel other subscriptions a lot more aggresively (I've unsubbed/resubbed to Gamepass plenty of times specially when playing random stuff with friends, there's something nice of the exploratory playing you do when you don't need to care who has bought which game)

On the pattern I use dropout, they'd get a month or two of revenue out of me (Binge a couple of their limited runs and catch up on their staples) and zilch for the rest of the year even if I'm a happy customer

Re: Fair Pricing

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Post by mbix77 »

Novosell wrote: post #278
mbix77 wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Calling the invasion of Ukraine and the killing of hundreds of thousands people, targeting kindergartens, hospitals, normal civilians, destabilizing an entire continent --> "politics". "any search source we consider using goes through rigorous evaluation process that considers: result quality, API availability, economic viability, result latency, legal terms, privacy terms, and technical feasibility. the moment 'poli…

What else would you call it?

War, invasion, terrorism,... take your pick.
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