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An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1

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Re: An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1

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Just because I'm an incurable cynic, has anybody run wireshark on it and checked that it actually does process entirely offline?

It’s not like they provide a binary though, how would they make external network requests?

I see we've forgotten xz already

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aider jams the backend on my PC, i have to kill the tcp connection or python to stop it running a GPU on the backend, from time to time. I can't imagine paying for tokens and not knowing if it's working or wasting money.

The loops and constant useless changes drive me nuts haha

I think the architect mode might be worth looking at but i'm going to attempt to aider.exe $(*.txt) and then switch to /ask mode and see if it can be used as a 0-shot document query.

because even a rudimentary, garbage implementation would be fun to have, i think.

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every time you respond to an AI model "no, you got that wrong, do it this way" you provide a very valuable piece of data to train on. With reasoning tokens there is just a lot more of that data to train on now

Users can be adversarial to the “truth” (to the extent it exists) without being adversarial in intent. Dinosaur bones are either 65 million year old remnants of ancient creatures or decoys planted by a God during a 7 day creation, and a large proportion of humans earnestly believe either take. Choosing which of these to believe involves a higher level decision about fundamental worldviews. This is an extreme example,…

Same way corporations do it, they hire humans and other companies to do things. Organisations already have a mind of their own with more drive to survive than an llm.

Re: An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1

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No they aren't. Every arc problem is novel - that's why it resisted deep learning for so long (and still does to a degree). We just don't know how much the model seeing what an arc problem is on the first place boosts its ability to solve them - that limited statement is all the author is making.

The ARC prize was created last year. Arc hasn't resisted AI for very long. See; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Chollet

Huh? It was made in 2019

Re: An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1

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The ARC prize was created last year. Arc hasn't resisted AI for very long. See; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fran%C3%A7ois_Chollet

Huh? It was made in 2019

OK,

I was following Wikipedia: In 2024, Chollet launched ARC Prize, a US$1 million competition to solve the ARC-AGI benchmark. I guess the ARC benchmark appeared in 2019 (https://arcprize.org/). So (shrug)

Re: An analysis of DeepSeek's R1-Zero and R1

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post #118

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aider jams the backend on my PC, i have to kill the tcp connection or python to stop it running a GPU on the backend, from time to time. I can't imagine paying for tokens and not knowing if it's working or wasting money.

The loops and constant useless changes drive me nuts haha

aider sucessfully made, 1-shot, a 2048 clone in architect mode, serverless, local html+js+css. i pushed the git repo it made to my github, aider2048clone. I used deepseek-r1-llama-70b distill, it took ~3 hours. after the first 10 minutes i didn't want to interrupt it, because who cares how long it takes if it works?

I haven't been able to get it to do anything but waste my tokens with deepseek itself as the backend (aider --model deepseek[/deepseek-reasoner|/deepseek-chat] i think but am not certain).

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our collective netflix thumbs up indicators gave investors and netflix the confidence to deploy a series of adam sandler movies that cost 60 to 80 million US dollars to "make". So depending on who you are, the system might be working great.

Through analytics Netflix should know exactly when people stop watching a series, or even when in a movie they exit out. They no doubt know this by user. They know exactly what makes you stay, and what makes you leave. I would not be surprised if in the near future movies and series are modifed on the fly to ensure users stay glued to their screens. In the distant future this might be done on a per user level.

They did it the other way around, every Netflix series is now designed like a soap opera, to be watched in the background.
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