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My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by yuppiepuppie »

coffeecantcode wrote: post #233
yuppiepuppie wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, unless not stated in this article, this is not doom scrolling. This seems more like an addiction issue, which is great that it’s being addressed. But it wouldn’t fit the definition of doom scrolling, which is an obsessive compulsion for searching of negative news.

Personally, this seems like an out of touch definition akin to Gen Z’s version of “dirty laundry”. When I first began to see doomscrolling appear in the digital vernacular it was almost exclusively in reference to scrolling with no end in sight, mindless scrolling, wasting inordinate amounts of time scrolling, etc. with no reference to the tone or themes of content consumed other than that it was short-form and ultim…

Out of touch? How so? And according to you what would be a more proper definition?

The difference I see with the example you give is that “Dirty laundry” is a metaphor, not a definition of a phenomenon.

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by 0xbadcafebee »

I would love to see more phones with PureOS, and distros based on PureOS. A non-Android FOSS OS that I can fully customize.

What's great about Linux distros is they are designed for different purposes, and they can decide what apps they ship by curating the list of ones in their repository. App delivery is secure, there's no random malware, there aren't a billion different nearly-identical apps with [probably] nefarious purposes, no barrage of capitalist free services designed to addict you. Just basic apps that let you be productive, without bloat, without malware, without BS.

I don't know why we aren't all using that right now. The PC is definitive proof that an open hardware platform can support any number of OSes. Let the user choose.

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by phatfish »

benterix wrote: post #2

Recently my coworker asked me if I could recommend any physical alarm clocks. He said that phone alarm causes him to pick up the phone the first thing in the morning and he wants to break away from this habit. I guess at some point the society as a whole will start fighting back.

I use a physical alarm clock, but what distracts me is I have to pick up my phone multiple times a day for stupid MFA prompts. It's so easy to have a quick check of an app.

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by guiambros »

brushfoot wrote: post #123

Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. What works for me is removing the antecedent completely by charging my phone in another room at night. Now the battle is easier: Decide once a day to put it there, and track how many days you succeed. For me that's a lot easier than having it in my pocket, where the Internet is always a couple la…

> Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions.

OneSec [1] is the only one that worked for me. It's quick enough that I'm not tempted to disable it, yet annoying enough that makes me think twice if I really want to open app X for the third time today.

Also it's just a polite nudge, rather than a full block, or condescending messages saying "you've hit your time limit for today" (that make you feel bad and make you want to immediately disable the thing in the first place).

Wish parental controls were designed with the same principles.

[1] https://one-sec.app/

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by Terr_ »

brushfoot wrote: post #123

Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. What works for me is removing the antecedent completely by charging my phone in another room at night. Now the battle is easier: Decide once a day to put it there, and track how many days you succeed. For me that's a lot easier than having it in my pocket, where the Internet is always a couple la…

> What works for me is removing the antecedent completely by charging my phone in another room at night.

A half-measure for this would be to arrange your charging-setup so that you can't use and charge the phone at the same time. For example, USB cables long enough to reach the nightstand, but not long enough to comfortably hold the phone in front of your face.

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by hirvi74 »

blobbers wrote: post #254

Read this while procrastinating. How many others would classify hackernews as doomscrolling?

It can be for some, I would imagine. However, I actually learn a lot from this site. I feel like there are so many knowledgeable people here about topics of great interest to me. I procrastinate a ton here, but I wouldn't classify it as 'doomscrolling.'

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by ryangs »

guiambros wrote: post #274
brushfoot wrote: post #123

Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. What works for me is removing the antecedent completely by charging my phone in another room at night. Now the battle is easier: Decide once a day to put it there, and track how many days you succeed. For me that's a lot easier than having it in my pocket, where the Internet is always a couple la…

> Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. OneSec [1] is the only one that worked for me. It's quick enough that I'm not tempted to disable it, yet annoying enough that makes me think twice if I really want to open app X for the third time today. Also it's just a polite nudge, rather than a full block, or condescending messages saying "…

I like this. Testing the browser extension now and pretty happy with it (after tweaking so returning to a tab has a grace period). I was using StayFocused, which is okay, but too tempting to just disable it (and annoying if I need to access a blocked site for work purposes).

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by YinglingHeavy »

guiambros wrote: post #274
brushfoot wrote: post #123

Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. What works for me is removing the antecedent completely by charging my phone in another room at night. Now the battle is easier: Decide once a day to put it there, and track how many days you succeed. For me that's a lot easier than having it in my pocket, where the Internet is always a couple la…

> Apps to fight apps has never worked for me. When I'm bored/tired enough, it becomes a game to disable my own restrictions. OneSec [1] is the only one that worked for me. It's quick enough that I'm not tempted to disable it, yet annoying enough that makes me think twice if I really want to open app X for the third time today. Also it's just a polite nudge, rather than a full block, or condescending messages saying "…

It's as if no one realizes their phone as a monochrome mode, which can be set as an 'accessibility' shortcut via simple button press.

Black and white kills the dopamine cycle and brings color back to your real life.

Re: My Struggle with Doom Scrolling

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Post by araes »

SentientOctopus wrote: post #134
ChrisRR wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think you necessarily have to be searching for bad news to be doom scrolling. The problem is with most of these services (this website included) is that even if you're trying to read limited topics, you'll still get bombarded with bad news Take currently for example, every corner of the internet is saturated with US politics, even for those of us outside of the US. I just want to read about interesting techno…

Fully agree. I've been searching, in vain, for sites that just give me fascinating/interesting science/tech/..., and failed to find anything that doesn't get me in a negative spiral. Would love to be proven wrong with an example :)

https://arstechnica.com/ (tech, space, science news, maybe avoid discussion pages to avoid spiral)

https://www.tomshardware.com/ (tech - computers, 3D printers, raspberry pi, somewhat consumer sales oriented)

https://phys.org/ (academia summaries)

https://arxiv-sanity-lite.com/ (arXiv papers recommended)

https://www.pewresearch.org/ (mostly interesting survey factoids, does covers politics, other negative inducement)

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