I have made the decision to disband Hindenburg Research

Post by fsloth » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 10:37 AM UTC

intended wrote: post #213

Jimmc414 wrote: post #77

"just feeling like it" seems insufficient explanation for dismantling a successful organization rather than transitioning it they just completed their "pipeline of ideas" with "the last Ponzi cases" - seems like a surprisingly clean and abrupt end for an investigative organization the team members are "brilliant" and "family to me" but heis disbanding rather than transitioning leadership He mentions some team members…

Being cautious is good. It IS possible, that this person is doing it out of passion, rather than a typical idea of a job or firm. TLDR: Within the realm of possibility, relatively unusual.

Post by WA » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 10:44 AM UTC

sub7 wrote: post #241

I have lost literally hundreds of thousands of $ trying to short obvious frauds and scams. I have made all that back and more by instead going long things that are cheap + growing. Being a bear pays off 1% of the time, and the act of trying to time it actually changes the window so just be an optimist and get rich.

Post by wil421 » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 10:54 AM UTC

graemep wrote: post #253

matwood wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trading fees are at or near zero in the US now unless you mean capital gains.

Not what I meant, but capital gains are another issue, but I am not in the US. In the UK we pay a 0.5% tax on ever transaction and often around £10 per transaction, so its quite substantial. I should probably have said costs, not fees. How much are total costs in the US? If you trade frequently even low costs add up. If its 0.1% and you trade monthly it ends up being 1.2% over the course of an year.

Post by belter » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 11:10 AM UTC

WalterBright wrote: post #147

gmd63 wrote: post #59

I've ironically lost more money the more closely I've paid attention to my investments because I was naively confident in the market's ability (or as I've come to suspect, willingness) to react to evidence of fraud. The amount of deceit put out into the world and gobbled up, on purpose, in business is obscene and seriously depressing. The magnitude of damage to psyches and thus economies that anyone acting in a fraud…

> I've ironically lost more money the more closely I've paid attention to my investments Money Magazine a few years ago compared various investment strategies in stocks. The #2 best performing one was investing in the S&P 500. The #1 best performing strategy was the "dead man strategy". The dead man strategy comes into play when the investor dies, and his estate gets frozen until it winds its way through the courts.…

Post by fakedang » Thu, Jan 16, 2025, 11:24 AM UTC

hiyer wrote: post #151

paxys wrote: post #30

Getting out while they are ahead is a smart move, especially considering multiple governments have started to take a closer look at their shorting tactics.

I wouldn't say they were ahead at least in terms of reputation. They targeted India's Adani group and failed. The Supermicro "revelation" was also a damp squib. I suppose they made plenty of money with their short-selling though, so in that sense they are, perhaps, ahead enough.