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Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by gruez »

ghjfrdghibt wrote: post #269
gruez wrote: post #263

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replied in the other comment. In short: if someone wears a balaclava to a bank, would you say that person also "has done nothing wrong"?

In short, just answering this question (which as stated in the other comment is not the issue), yes that person has t done anything wrong. There is no offence for wearing hats in banks.

>There is no offence for wearing hats in banks.

But banks aren't mandated to admit you either. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean a private establishment has to let you in. When it comes to denying entry, banks are relatively tame. Some establishments go beyond that, by denying entry unless you wear formal clothing, or presenting proof of identity.

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by bobnamob »

imhoguy wrote: post #251
bobnamob wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another aussie expat abroad, leaving a box behind at my parents place for an Australian residential IP has got to be one of the most unexpectedly great things I've done. Wireguard/Tailscale and my parents having access to cheap renewable power are the real enablers ofc. To anyone moving abroad in the near future - leave a box behind with your parents/close friends, it's well worth the trouble if they're ok with yo…

And don't be tempted to run any upgrades on it until you come back :)

Yeah, I’ll admit there’s some paranoia about losing access after a botched upgrade.

I’m considering investing in a https://tinypilotkvm.com/, but that can wait till I’ve lost ssh at least once. I’m not hosting aws on the thing so I can afford to play it fast and loose :)

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by ycombinatrix »

bluGill wrote: post #262
driverdan wrote: post #189

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Unfortunately the government seems to have given up on enforcing the CAN-SPAM act. If they actually enforced it spam companies like Salesforce would face massive fines.

You can press charges yourself and get lawyer fees for your efforts. Probably not worth it, but you don't need the government to do this.

Yeah, the same way I don't need to pay taxes...

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by ycombinatrix »

solatic wrote: post #219
Animats wrote: post #13

> The "unsubscribe" button in Indeed's job notification emails leads me to an impassable Cloudflare challenge. That's a CAN-SPAM act violation. FTC: "Tell recipients how to opt out of receiving future marketing email from you. Your message must include a clear and conspicuous explanation of how the recipient can opt out of getting marketing email from you in the future. Craft the notice in a way that’s easy for an or…

Makes me wonder. If it's illegal to deploy bot protection on unsubscribe links, and there are massive lists of leaked email addresses available, surely someone has tried to mass-unsubscribe tons of email addresses from tons of mailing lists?

brb unsubscribing the world from Indeed

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by spookie »

scarface_74 wrote: post #160
SoftTalker wrote: post #158

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By that logic, why care about accomodating anyone with a disability? Your site works for 95% of people, why care about those who need to use screen readers? And before you say "that's their choice," you're the one who is breaking the functionality. Nothing about using a VPN or linux or Firefox creates any problem for TCP/IP or https.

One because it’s the law and two because the disabled can’t just make a choice and install Chrome. However, while the site creator does have to meet the disabled halfway, the disabled person is responsible for having whatever type of equipment they need to make it work - ie screenreaders

If your website is full of divs generated by JS that are full of aria tags that make no sense, those tools don't have a chance. Most websites act this way as well. Even Facebook used to lock people out of their messages if you couldn't use a mouse, at least in the last time I checked (infinite feed + no way to skip feed via tab -> can't reach right panel).

Just do your job right. Not saying you should test some unique Firefox config but at least the default version is to be tested.

Hell, I've seen people here indicating that they just tell desktop Mac users to "install Chrome". Such carelessness is bad for business. Web development sure could raise its bar.

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by ghjfrdghibt »

gruez wrote: post #271
ghjfrdghibt wrote: post #269

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In short, just answering this question (which as stated in the other comment is not the issue), yes that person has t done anything wrong. There is no offence for wearing hats in banks.

>There is no offence for wearing hats in banks. But banks aren't mandated to admit you either. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean a private establishment has to let you in. When it comes to denying entry, banks are relatively tame. Some establishments go beyond that, by denying entry unless you wear formal clothing, or presenting proof of identity.

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Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by jillyboel »

gruez wrote: post #51
jillyboel wrote: post #47

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It's up to users to choose their user agent.

And it's up to site owners and website security vendors to choose which user agents to admit.

No, that's discrimination.

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by ycombinatrix »

imhoguy wrote: post #251
bobnamob wrote: post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As another aussie expat abroad, leaving a box behind at my parents place for an Australian residential IP has got to be one of the most unexpectedly great things I've done. Wireguard/Tailscale and my parents having access to cheap renewable power are the real enablers ofc. To anyone moving abroad in the near future - leave a box behind with your parents/close friends, it's well worth the trouble if they're ok with yo…

And don't be tempted to run any upgrades on it until you come back :)

Oof. Been there.

Re: Tell HN: Impassable Cloudflare challenges are ruining my browsing experience

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Post by ycombinatrix »

bobnamob wrote: post #272
imhoguy wrote: post #251

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And don't be tempted to run any upgrades on it until you come back :)

Yeah, I’ll admit there’s some paranoia about losing access after a botched upgrade. I’m considering investing in a https://tinypilotkvm.com/ , but that can wait till I’ve lost ssh at least once. I’m not hosting aws on the thing so I can afford to play it fast and loose :)

imo it's more flexible to just have two boxes, especially if they're cheap.
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