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Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by SR2Z »

dvogel wrote: post #266
bitfilped wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

Unfortunately paying for these services to avoid ads will never work. It was first promised by cable TV when they first scaled out coaxial around the country. You paid for TV in part to not have ads. That worked great until the advertisers increased their bid. It was tried when VHS kicked off but eventually even tapes rented from Blockbuster had ads once the advertisers increased their bid. And now it is happening to…

You're on to something.

I'm signed into my TV and whenever friends cast a video Google mysteriously forgets that it's not allowed to show me ads.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by Spivak »

satvikpendem wrote: post #176
Ageodene wrote: post #160

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You don't need to "turn off the bad features" because they are opt-in to begin with.

I shouldn't need to opt into or out of features that shouldn't exist in the first place, much less in a browser.

You're scraping the paint off with how far you're dragging the goalposts.

Brave has a weird crypto thing, it's on not by default, it's not pushed on you, I don't even know how to turn it on.

Firefox right now today has ads in the URL bar. I'm using Waterfox to avoid all Mozilla's garbage but Brave is up near the top of least shitty.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by ozim »

effingwewt wrote: post #267
bitfilped wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

Or refuse to give in to extortion and don't.

What’s the extortion?

I hate bait and switch done on me when they were giving free stuff out. I was there when creators were purely about having fun, trying stuff out and sharing it with the world.

But for kids these days it mostly is fair game - you want to watch funny cat videos, pay up or watch ads.

You can always have fun with friends from over the world and send each other videos no one is forcing you to post it on YT.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by satvikpendem »

Spivak wrote: post #272
satvikpendem wrote: post #176

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I shouldn't need to opt into or out of features that shouldn't exist in the first place, much less in a browser.

You're scraping the paint off with how far you're dragging the goalposts. Brave has a weird crypto thing, it's on not by default, it's not pushed on you, I don't even know how to turn it on. Firefox right now today has ads in the URL bar. I'm using Waterfox to avoid all Mozilla's garbage but Brave is up near the top of least shitty.

Up near the top? It literally had a controversies section on Wikipedia due to all these shady things it did, with cryptocurrency and others, I am not sure how worse it can get [0]. I'll take URL ads any day of the week compared to the kinds of things Brave pulled over the years.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brave_(web_browse...

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by ozim »

SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

Maybe people could start actually using internet like it supposed to be used instead?

Like we all should move to IPv6 and if someone wants to share videos with friends and family they could do without big corporations. If they want to serve their content for profit that should also be easy.

But we got what we have it sucks but seems either pay up or don’t use what big corps provide.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by rchaud »

csdreamer7 wrote: post #190
rchaud wrote: post #135

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Uh, YT on FF is unusable now. They'll show the "adblockers not allowed" message if you have Ghostery enabled. Even if you disable that, they will add tons of artificial lag on things like key input, clicks and screen draw speed. I know it's artificial because it worked fine for years and then one day....

Disable ublock origin on Youtube, or pay for Youtube. As for artificial lag, I suspect it is because it using the web standard version of Youtube. Had this issue with Google Sheets where paste did not work correctly (forget exactly what it is) and it did work on Chrome. Google uses non-standard things to optimize the experience. It is not acceptable, but it is also an issue that will go away once more people go back…

I consider myself grandfathered into their 2006 plan.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by runjake »

dvogel wrote: post #266
bitfilped wrote: post #244

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or pay for it and support the people who's content you're watching and the company who's infrastructure is providing it.

Unfortunately paying for these services to avoid ads will never work. It was first promised by cable TV when they first scaled out coaxial around the country. You paid for TV in part to not have ads. That worked great until the advertisers increased their bid. It was tried when VHS kicked off but eventually even tapes rented from Blockbuster had ads once the advertisers increased their bid. And now it is happening to…

Agreed, but the subscription is generally month to month, so I take advantage until that happens and then cancel, like I did with the other crummy streaming services that have done this (Netflix, Prime, etc).

That said, while I find those services pretty scummy for what they've done, I've fled back to spending a lot more time with books. There's plenty of them to read before I die and it's unlikely they'll be similarly molested.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by Spivak »

satvikpendem wrote: post #274
Spivak wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're scraping the paint off with how far you're dragging the goalposts. Brave has a weird crypto thing, it's on not by default, it's not pushed on you, I don't even know how to turn it on. Firefox right now today has ads in the URL bar. I'm using Waterfox to avoid all Mozilla's garbage but Brave is up near the top of least shitty.

Up near the top? It literally had a controversies section on Wikipedia due to all these shady things it did, with cryptocurrency and others, I am not sure how worse it can get [0]. I'll take URL ads any day of the week compared to the kinds of things Brave pulled over the years. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brave_(web_browse...

The list for Firefox over the years would warrant a whole page on Wikipedia. Browser choices are a who's who of who's debased themselves the fewest number of times trying to squeeze money out of a free product. The current state of Brave is better than the current state of Firefox right now.

Re: Tell HN: I just updated my wife's Chrome, and uBlock is no longer supported

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Post by kbelder »

Crosseye_Jack wrote: post #248
SnowingXIV wrote: post #95

There has to be google engineers here. Does this just fall on deaf ears? I realize it’s a massive corp but imagine high ranking staff have a say and input. Maybe they don’t and Sundar isn’t worried about that. Or they do a simple cost analysis and short-term they see the benefit and are willing to to risk long term erosion that maybe be minimal. Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I m…

> Weird returning to Firefox, but I did and there is nothing in chrome I miss. I fear that Firefox’s days are probably numbered at this point, as it’s (imo) too late to turn the ship. Firefox/Mozilla gets something in the region of 80% of its revenue from a single source, Google, for the default search engine placement. But with the court finding Google being a Monopoly those payments will probably come to an end. Ap…

I think losing the Google money will be the only thing that could save Firefox... although it'll be a tough year or two while all the execs flee and side projects get axed.
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