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it looks like you just described the customer. apparently it isn't you. just because it isnt you and it isnt 90+ percent of people, doesn't mean it doesnt exist. there are all sorts of niche products for niche groups.
Grayjay Desktop App
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#272Earlier quoted context omitted.
As I understand it, GrayJay is not free (as in they want to be paid, which is I think is reasonable). How does this work with something like AGPL? I'm curious to hear more, because I'm in the process of evaluating licenses for a software I'm planning to build and sell. For me it's important that users can feel safe with running my code and build it themselves - and keep using the software if I'm no longer around to m…
There’s literally nothing in any open source software license that stops the author from getting paid. It is literally one of the fundamental freedoms mentioned by Richard Stallman. Freedom to sell the software. AGPL just closes the cloud service loop where someone can take your code, modify it and deploy it and offer it as a cloud service. As they’re not technically “distributing” the modifications they wouldn’t be…
A good example is for-sale Wordpress plugins. There are entire sites/communities for using the FOSS license to take those for-sale plugins and redistributing them for free. The RedHat debacle is another example although with some more nuance. Standard Notes had a similar situation.
It looks like the FUTO license is trying to prevent someone from stripping the payment features and redistributing. Personally I prefer when folks use a FOSS license but I think the “you can get paid for FOSS” argument is overly optimistic.
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#274Earlier quoted context omitted.
I gave too many shits about my home dir once too.. My only correct way today is create your own home dir inside your home dir to combat this hell hole of never ending config junk in your home dir
It's a "green m&ms" thing. If the developers can't be bothered to adhere to something as basic as XDG, they're getting a ton of other things wrong, and my life is too short to spend on buggy slop.
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#275Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's a "green m&ms" thing. If the developers can't be bothered to adhere to something as basic as XDG, they're getting a ton of other things wrong, and my life is too short to spend on buggy slop.
It is not really. If you show hidden files there is a ton of junk folders above your non hidden folders. along with more junk like folders generated by the system. I can't be arsed to go look up ways to keep them from returning or manage when I can just have my stuff reside in my own organization. Windows user folder isn't better and Microsoft also adds tons of junk folders (3D Objects, Contacts, Links, Favorites, Se…
Yes, it is. It takes only a few minutes to comply with the XDG spec. If an author can't be bothered to do that, he probably hasn't bothered to make his program secure, stable, or extensible either. XDG non-adherence is a strong negative quality signal.
Re: Grayjay Desktop App
#276Earlier quoted context omitted.
i just find the tension and contradictions of piracy kinda fascinating. "i hate this so much but i have to get it cause i apparently need it so badly". something being deserving to be obtained, yet not deserving to be paid for. and most of all, somebody feeling so entitled to it that they just can't actually refuse it completely.
You didn't answer the question, and overall you're being very mercurial in this thread. Write coherently. > i just find the tension and contradictions of piracy kinda fascinating You're calling watching a TV show without watching the commercials "piracy"? That's a very broad definition of "piracy" that I'd venture has almost no support outside of your comments here.
Re: Grayjay Desktop App
#277Earlier quoted context omitted.
"i hate that you do x" is perfectly normal, you're being weird.
And that's not even the words used, they said: > I absolutely hate like this
> I absolutely hate having stuff automatically create anything in my home directory like this.
Which is
> I absolutely hate like this
Which is not
> I absolutely hate like this
I quite like grayjay. I just dislike this one thing it does.
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#278Earlier quoted context omitted.
And Debian is OK with that, because Debian is not a for-profit company that paid it's developers money to make a product, thus they don't care that others get it and resell it. For a company, the product itself, what makes money, cannot be OSS, as it makes its resell value effectively zero. If the software was OSS, then the software is _not_ the product, but added values are (support, consulting, etc... the classic t…
> For a company, the product itself, what makes money, cannot be OSS It can. I work for XWiki SAS, and we sell some extensions under LGPL at store.xwiki.com. And it works, people and especially companies, choose convenience over installing the tools to compile and install the extensions themselves. It works because it's usual and easy to understand for companies to pay for software, and way easier to justify than don…
In this case I feel that the answer might ultimately be that it works because it is mostly a niche market and there are other value adds such as support from the makers themselves, which is always a good thing but already is not the software itself per se.
I don't think many companies would be confortable with such a brittle grasp on their sales. Basically it relies on nobody else wanting to do the same (and maybe risk that they execute better).
Imagine if Photoshop was OSS... well, it is good food for thought.
(EDIT re. the apps you mention: also interesting cases; not sure how much that model is actively hurting them or otherwise helping them, would love to see writeups from the companies or creators)
Re: Grayjay Desktop App
#279Launching the Linux release and noticed in the logs: Directories:User Directory: /home/bisby/Grayjay And there is a directory there now. I absolutely hate having stuff automatically create anything in my home directory like this. Ideally, this should be following XDG directory guidelines on linux: https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/
Like others said, fighting the clean HOME fight is just draining and futile in the end. This script helps you identify low hanging fruit, though, where you can change their storage location with a simple envvar.
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#280I love the right to repair work Louis Rossmann does, and this project goal as a whole, but this license is a major step backwards for software distribution with high assurances of security, freedom and privacy. Debian, Arch, Guix, F-droid or any other independent signed reproducible build channels require a true Open Source license to function legally. The license thus forces users to download unsigned non-reproducib…
FUTO develops, for the most part, proprietary software that they plan to monetize. The license choice isn't some mistake that you can get them to recant by explaining the virtues of the AGPL and third party distributors. (They're already aware of these things; one of the products under their umbrella is Immich, which was relicensed to AGPL after they started employing the original developer, as a compromise between h…
To make a small correction, the AGPL relicensing happened _before_ joining FUTO, and was not a compromise.
(I'm part of the Immich team)