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Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The biggest benefit I see so far is the integration of ChatGPT into Siri to answer questions for me while I'm driving instead of giving me "I'm sorry, I can't show you that while driving"

I was looking forward to that as well, but Siri refuses to read ChatGPT's responses to me...which makes it substantially less useful. It's just as frustrating as being told "sorry, you'll have to unlock your phone if you want me to play something on youtube music". Let's hope they iterate, I guess?

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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4o and o1 get this right. LLMs should never do math. They shouldn't count letters or sort lists or play chess or checkers. Basically all of the easy gotcha stuff that people use to point out errors are things that they shouldn't do. And you pointed out something they do now which is creating and run a python script. That really is a pretty solid, sustainable heuristic and is actually a pretty great approach. They nee…

> LLMs should never do math. They shouldn't count letters or sort lists or play chess or checkers. But these aren't "gotcha questions", these are just some of the basic interactions that people will want to have with intelligent assistants. Literally just two days ago I was doing some things with the compound interest formula - I asked Claude to solve for a particular variable of the formula, then plug in some number…

With general mathematical questions, I've often found WolframAlpha surprisingly helpful.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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IMO there is no advantage to having "community" notes taken of a meeting: I take my own notes about decisions made in the meeting that I care about, and items I need to take care of. Therefore, every meeting I'm in has notes taken, though no one else is even aware (unless they are taking their own, which I assume many are). I think this is relatively common (since I can't see how one can function in most knowledge wo…

This is moving the goal posts, though, and you know it. In a meeting with "notes taken", there is someone tasked with doing so in an official manner usually decided by the person coordinating the meeting. It is also typically known by the meeting attendees that this is the case. Those notes are usually made available after the fact in whatever form is normal for that company. In Zoom type meetings, we all get the "re…

Sorry, wasn't trying to move any goalposts: you're replying to my first comment in the thread. I've never experienced the situation you describe, and literally didn't know that this was a practice. I've seen formal meetings run by Robert's Rules, which have a secretary keeping "minutes", which are a subtly different thing and are generally not useful for anything other than official purposes.

I've also seen meetings where some enterprising project manager says they will "make notes available". Sometimes they even do this, but even when they do, the notes are useless for everyone who isn't them -- they've just distributed their personal notes in the hopes that somehow they would be useful to others in the meeting, which of course they aren't.

Have a nice day.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The only part of their presentation that was interesting is having Siri be able to control apps and reach into apps for information, and developers having an API to register actions and information with the LLM. I'm not super optimistic about the execution at this point though given how rushed it's all been.

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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I think this is much more on a botched rollout and a lack of vision. Apple should have been working on this for years and have some pretty big advantages. A deeply integrated version of the best o1 chat and vision models with context from all various apps and ability to do complex app interactions could be amazing. They could even have the ability to have AI basically create on demand personalized new applications fo…

I agree, but based on their software track record over the last couple of years, I have little hope that we’ll get much beyond a disparate collection of mostly half-baked features.

> I have little hope that we’ll get much beyond a disparate collection of mostly half-baked features.

Really? AI has driven most of the interesting features they've released in the last decade. Notably, organization of the photos app and indexing of people, pets, places, etc. (Nb I have not yet updated to ios 18 and I understand the photos app is somewhat controversial.)

Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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The only “benefit” of Apple Intelligence so far is that it apparently requires a lot of memory, causing Apple to bump up their minimum Mac Mini configurations to 16 GB memory. I’m loving my Mac Mini so far - but that’s entirely due to the M4 chip inside rather than any Apple Intelligence feature. I have not used a single Intelligence feature beyond just trying them out initially and being completely underwhelmed.

You don’t find the LM based spelling and word suggestions much better than the old ones?

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Re: Most iPhone owners see little to no value in Apple Intelligence so far

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But...I'm not doing the same thing. In actuality I'm saying I'm a fairly typical programmer in a common situation: I work across a variety of languages and platforms and toolings and projects, building solutions for problems. The truth is that extraordinarily few programmers are working on anything truly novel. Zero of the readers of this comment are, in all likelihood. The ridiculous notion that someone has so uniqu…

> Who called anyone a name? Luddism? Yes, many HN participants are reacting to AI in a completely common rejection of change / challenge, and it recurs constantly. You should read up on what Luddism and Luddists were actually about. They didn't think the machines were evil or satanic, which is the common cultural read. They assumed (correctly) that the managerial class would take full advantage of increased productiv…

>You should read up on what Luddism and Luddists were actually about.

They were primarily opposed to automation because it devalued the work they did and the skills they held. That is the core essence of Luddism. They thought if they destroyed the machines, automation could be stopped. There were some post-facto justifications like product quality, but if that was true they'd have no problem out-competing the machines.

Yes, it is Luddism that drives a lot of the AI sentiment seen on HN, and it is not only utterly futile and basically people convincing themselves and each other while the world moves on. There is no "name calling", and that particular blend of pearl clutching is absurd.

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