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https://browser.geekbench.com/v6/cpu/7531877 seems fine?
7614 MT/s on the RAM is a pretty large overclock for desktop DDR5.
There are 8000MT/s CUDIMMs for the new Intel Chips now...
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I verified Geekbench results to be very tightly correlated with my use case and workloads (JVM, Clojure development and compilation) as measured by my wall times. So yes, I consider it to be a very reliable indicator of performance.
Curious how you verified that? I should possibly do thesame
Run Geekbench on a sample of hardware. Run your workload along same hardware. Regress.
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#273Good enough to be used for gaming? Really want Apple to get into that because dealing with Windows sucks.
That depends on what you want to play and what other things that suck that you’re willing to tolerate. The GPUs in previous M chips aren’t beating AMD or NVidia’s top offerings on anything except VRAM but you can definitely play games with them. Apple has released their Game Porting Toolkit a couple years ago which is basically like Wine/Proton in Linux and if you’re comfortable with Wine and approximately what a Ste…
In addition to Whisky, it seems to not be well known that VMWare Fusion is free for personal use and can run the ARM version of Windows 11 with GPU acceleration. I tried it on my M1 Pro MBP and mid-range Steam games ran surprisingly well; an M4 should be even better.
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#274Am I missing something? I don't know where this informations came from, but you can check out GeekBench v6 single-core benchmarks here.
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Their margins tend to allow them to always use the latest TSMC process so they will often be pretty good just based on that. They are also ARM chips which obviously have been more focused on efficiency historically.
Oh how the mighty have fallen. For decades, when comparing Mac versus PCs, it was always about performance, with any other consideration always derided. Yet here we are, with the excuses of margins and silicon processes generations. But you haven't answered the question. Is Apple pulling ahead or is the x86 cabal able to keep up?
Apple is ahead. The fab stuff is an explanation of why they are ahead, not an excuse for being behind.
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Indeed, the $1599 M4 Pro Mac mini beats the current $3999 M2 Ultra Mac Studio on GeekBench 6 multi-core: https://www.macrumors.com/2024/10/31/m4-pro-chip-benchmark-r...
Back in the early 90s, when Apple was literally building their first product line with the Mac, they would come out with their second big honking powerhouse Mac: the Macintosh IIx. It blew everything out of the water. Then they would come out with their next budget all-in-one machine. But computing was improving so fast, with prices for components dropping so quickly, that the Macintosh SE/30 ended up as impressive a…
>the Macintosh IIx. It blew everything out of the water.
naa... Amiga had the A2500 around the same time, the Mac IIx wasn't better with regards to specs in most ways. And at about $4500 more expensive (Amiga 2500 was around $3300, Mac IIx was $7769), it was vastly overpriced as is typical for Apple products.
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I am still astounded the huge change moving from an Intel Mac to an Apple Silicon Mac (M1) has had in terms of battery performance and heat. I don't think i've heard the fans a single time I've had this machine and it's been several years. Nor have I had any desire to upgrade.
M3 Pro user here, agree with the same points. It's nice to be able to actually have your laptop on your lap, without burning your legs.
you still shouldn't have it on your lap though. it's bad for your posture.
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I am still astounded the huge change moving from an Intel Mac to an Apple Silicon Mac (M1) has had in terms of battery performance and heat. I don't think i've heard the fans a single time I've had this machine and it's been several years. Nor have I had any desire to upgrade.
Lol ... You were not around for the ppc -> Intel change ... Same thing happened then ... Remarkable performance uplift from the last instruction set ... And we had Rosetta which allowed compatibility... The m1 and arm took power efficiency to another level .... But yeah what has happened before will happen again
I was around for that.
The thing then was it was just Apple catching up with windows computers which had had a considerable performance lead for a while. It didn't really seem magical to just see it finally matched. (Yes Intel Mac's got better then Windows computers but that was later. At launch it was just matching)
It's very different this time because you can't match the performance/battery trade off in anyway.
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I think by the time my work-provided M1 MacBook Pro arrived, the M2s were already out, but of course I simply didn't care. I actually wonder when it will be worth the hassle of transferring all my stuff over to a new machine. Could easily be another 4 years.
Funny that we can buy renewed Intel Macs for less than $200 and do exactly the same.
...until the battery runs out hours earlier.