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Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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That's not a car person.

What's your definition of a car person? I don't care for the guy, but having multiple modified super cars and building several custom trucks in the past -- he seems like a car [truck] person to me?

He's a youtuber whose niche is outrage bait for engagement and views.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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> I play the lottery every day and I haven't won a dollar The chance of a consumer encountering any of those issues is equivalent to winning the lottery? We should all run and get a cybertruck! :-;

No, I'm describing the uselessness of people's individual experiences to describe statistical phenomena

But I don't see it a whole lot worse than a forum of users listing all the problem they without having any kind of statistic on exactly how frequent these issues are, per vehicle, per mile driven etc.

People who have problems with their cybertruck will go and post about it. Understandably, they are also frustrated, the posts sound angry, and then any journalist can repost/compile all those to make it sound like these are just dumpster fires on wheels. But just as in the lottery case, we never get to hear from every loser, only from the winners; here we don't get to hear from the "winners", only the "losers".

I mean they may well be dumpster fires on wheels but without solid statistics it's hard to be sure exactly so any kind of story can be made up about it.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

People are much more likely to approach you to say something positive than to say something negative. There’s almost no precedent for a “hit” vehicle at that price point. Toyota stopped selling real Landcruisers in the US because Americans won’t pay that much for something with a Toyota Badge (hence the current real Landcruiser is sold as a Lexus in very low volume). Tesla are claiming a hit after making people wait…

For the longest time, the Lx variant of the Land Cruiser was cheaper than the Land Cruiser in used markets because average car buyers don’t know that the LX is a Land Cruiser with leather.

There are tons of deals like this in the car world. While peons paid insane markups on the RAV4 prime, intelligent people were getting the Lexus variant for MSRP and they had an actually good interior on top of it!!!

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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It's not a truck though. It's a unibody car with a bed and big wheels. Trucks are body on frame and can do real work without the back falling off.

Is the Honda Ridgeline not a truck? Ford Maverick? The cybertruck is simply the biggest thing in that segment.

Both of those cars have more real world (i.e long distance) towing capacity than a cyber truck.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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The thing is, the people most likely to complain that the Cybertruck is a bad vehicle are the people who are informed about it. The wider public doesn't know about things like the tonneau cover leaking, wheel bearings failing, the suspension being stuck down and causing tire rub, the aerodynamic wheel covers that were causing tire failures because they were puncturing the sidewalls, the upper control arms that bend l…

I think most of these people don't notice because they aren't pushing it. They're using it like most people use an SUV these days--as a normal car on roads and highways without any cargo. It's an overpriced status symbol to them.

And apparently that's also true for many people who buy these monster trucks that also push 100k use.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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It's basically the same size as an F-150. It has a crumple zone although it probabl only activates for hard car collisions. I've seen no evidence that it is significantly worse for pedestrian safety than an F-150. Which is not good at all, but it is still a bit pretentious to paint it as a horribly dangerous car when there is no evidence that it is worse than one of the most common cars in the US.

I don't know, the average driver handling a 6600 lbs chunk of sharp aluminum capable of going 0-60 in 4 seconds terrifies me.

Easy to say but does that really represent the statistical reality? Does higher acceleration cause more accidents? Sports cars have more accidents. Sports cars that are driven by young people that want to show off. Cars with a high top speed. But do you think people will try to corner with the Cybertruck like they're racing? Yes they will spend a few seconds after each stop sign at hogher speed than if they weren't driving a Cybertruck but then they're just coasting down the suburbs with 30mph or whatever. But it is not obvious to me at all that Cybertruck driving should occur significantly often in dangerous fashion just because you can get to your cruising speed and overtake a bit quicker. You need statistics to back up these claims and these don't exist yet.

Re: Tesla's Cybertruck is outselling almost every other EV in the US

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The weird thing I’ve seen is in almost all the online forums I visit, like Reddit, YouTube comment sections, parts of twitter, hacker news, the cybertruck is universally panned. Yet when I drove a cybertruck, the number of onlookers who approached me inquiring about the car with excitement is unmatched with even a Lamborghini that I once rented. Shows how much of a bubble the internet alone is. MKBHD got the ratio’s…

I also fell for this online bashing of the cybertruck. And since I had a model S but skipped the model 3 for a taycan and was aware of the poor quality of the model 3, I thought it made sense.

However if people are buying the cybertruck despite all its faults, then I'm glad to be proven wrong.

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