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I'm pretty sure there's a few hundred fusion wmds in silos a few hours north of me, we've had this kind of weapon since 1952.
Nice fact check, thank you. I didn’t know H-bombs used fusion but it makes complete sense. Hydrogen is not exactly the heaviest of elements :) Well then, for my example, imagine a different future discovery that could be abused. Let’s say biological robots or a some new source of useful energy that is misused. Warring humans find ways to corrupt many scientific achievements for evil.
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WSJ's paywall, particularly against Archive Today, has been hardening markedly of late. I'm repeatedly seeing A.T. links posted which read "you have been blocked" or similar. Sometimes those resolve later, sometimes not. HN's policy is that paywalls are permissible where workarounds exist. WSJ is getting close to disabling those workarounds. The NYTimes similarly tightened its paywall policy a few years ago. A conseq…
> There are literally hundreds of news sites, and many thousands if individual sites, submitted to HN and making the front page annually. It would cost a fortune, not merely a small one, to subscribe to all of these. No one has the time to read all of them, so it doesn't really matter if it would also be unaffordable.
HN takes pride in being both a single community and discussing a wide range of sources. Wider adoption of subscriber paywalls online would be inimical to both aspects.
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I was surprised at the claim that intentionally giving someone AIDS would be decriminalized, so I looked it up. The AIDS bill you seem to refer to (SB 239) lowers penalties from a felony to a misdemeanor (so it is still a crime), bringing it in line with other sexually transmitted diseases. The argument is that we now have good enough treatment for HIV that there is no reason for the punishment to be harsher than for…
"Undetectable means untranstmitable" is NOT the same as "cured" in the way that many STDs can be. I am not okay with being forced onto drugs for the rest of my life to prevent a disease which is normally a horribly painful death sentence. Herpes is so ubiquitous that much of the population (as I recall on the orders of 30-40%) has it and doesn't know it, so it's a special exception HIV/AIDS to this day is still somet…
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> but it's being run just fine As a Californian I have to disagree. The only reason you think it's being run just fine is because of the success of the private sector. The only reason California would be the 4th/5th largest economy in the world is because of the the tech industry and other industries that are in California (Hollywood, agriculture, etc). It's not because we have some awesome efficiently run state gove…
>It's not because we have some awesome efficiently run state government. Can you point to any place in the world that has an "awesome efficiently run" government?
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#276This is information technology we are talking about, it's virtually the exact opposite of nuclear weapons. Refining uranium vs. manufacturing multi purpose silicon and guzzling electricity. Achieving deterrence vs. gaining immeasurable wealth, power and freedom from labor.
This race may even be the answer to the Fermi paradox - that there are few individual winners and that they pull up the ladders behind them.
This is not the kind of race any legislation will have meaningful effect on.
The race is on and you better commit to a faction that may deliver.
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Only applying to the biggest models is the point ; the biggest models are the inherently high-risk ones. The larger they get, the more that running them at all is the "high-risk situation". Passing this would not have been a complete solution, but it would have been a step in the right direction. This is a huge disappointment.
> running them at all is the "high-risk situation" What is the actual, concrete concern here? That a model "breaks out", or something? The risk with AI is not in just running models, the risk is becoming overconfident in them, and then putting them in charge of real-world stuff in a way that allows them to do harm. Hooking a model up to an effector capable of harm is a deliberate act requiring assurance that it doesn…
The concern is that the models do some fantastic sci-fi magic, like diamond nanobots that turn the world into grey goo, or hacks all the nukes overnight, or hacks all human brains or something.
But, whenever you point this out the response will usually be able to quibble over one specific scenario that I laid out.
They'll say "I actually never mentioned the diamond nanobots! I meant something else!"
And they will do this, without admitting that their other scenario is almost equally as ridiculous as the hacking of all nukes or the grey goo, and they will never get into specific details that honestly show this.
Its like an argument that is tailor made to being unfalsifiable and which is unwilling to admit how fantastical it sounds.
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#278Code as Data, Data as Code.
When you start the program, it joins the swarm : it starts by grabbing a torrent, and train a model on it in a distributed fashion, and publish the results as a torrent. Then with the trained model, it generates new data, (think of it like alpha-go playing new games to collect more data).
See it as a tower of knowledge building itself, following some rough initial plans.
Of course, at anytime you can fork the tower, and continue building with different plans, provided that you can convince other people from the swarm to contribute to the new tower rather than the old.
Everything is immutable, but there is a versioning protocol built-in that allow the swarm to coordinate and automatically jumps to a next fork when the byzantine resistant quorum it follows vote for doing so (which allow your swarm to be compliant of the law and remove data if it was flagged as inappropriate). This allow some form of external control, but you can also let the quorum vote on subsequent modifications based on a model built on its data (aka free-running mode).
It's using torrent because easier to bootstrap but because the whole computation deterministic, the underlying protocol is just files on disks and any way of sharing them is valid. So you can grab a piece to work on via http, or ftp, or carrier pigeon for all I care. As long as the digital signatures are conforming to the rules, brick by brick the tower will get built.
To contribute, you can either help with file distribution by sharing the torrent, so it's as safe as your p2p client. If you want to commit some computing resources, like your gpu to building some of the tower, it's only requiring you to trust that there is no bug in ShoggothDb, because the computation you'll perform are composed of safe blocks, by construction they are safe for your computer to run. (Except if you want to run unsafe blocks, at this point no guarantee can be made).
The incentives for helping building the tower can be set in the initial definition file, and range from mere access to the built tower to tokens for honest participation for the more materialistically inclined.
Is it OK to release with the new law ? Is this comment OK, because ShoggothDB5-o can built its source from the specs in this comment ?
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It's troubling that you are saying things about the bill which are false, and then speculating on the motives of someone just pointing out that what you are saying is false.
Or point out what is actually false?
You rebutted the points that the flop limit will not actually limit anyone by saying that gpt4 is out of reach of startups.
Is OpenAI a startup? Is Anthropic? Is Grok? Is Perplexity? Is SSI?
You ignored the counter points that advanced technology exponentially raises flop limits and changes costs.
You said that the flop limit can be raised over time. So startups shouldn’t worry.
You ignored the counter point that flop limits in export controls are explicitly designed to limit competition from other nations.
Flop limits not being a real limit is a ridiculous argument. The intent of a flop limit is to limit, no matter how you sugar coat it.
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I think California might have a better run government if it had an electable conservative party. The Republican Party is not that, being tied to the national Trump-Vance-Orbán axis. A center-right party could hold Democratic officers accountable but it’s not being offered and moderates gravitate to the electable Dem side. An independent California would largely fix that. As a lifelong California Democrat, I realize t…
Pre-Trump Republicans had no problem absurdly mismanaging Kansas’ coffers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas_experiment I think the Republican Party’s positive reputation for handling the economy and running an efficient government is entirely unearned. Closing down major parts of the government entirely (as Project 2025 proposes), making taxation more regressive, and offering fewer social services isn’t “efficien…