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Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by Eisenstein »

saagarjha wrote: post #231
CydeWeys wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I block people on Twitter all the time, but I can't even remember the last time I had to block anyone on reddit (it was years ago). This speaks to the different models between the two -- on reddit I'm only interacting on specific subreddits, which because I've chosen them, have much nicer and more reasonable people than "all of Twitter". Twitter is always just nonstop fighting and yelling.

Reddit has a lot more people who block because they want to get in the last word and prevent you from replying.

It has become weaponized. If someone blocks you, they can see your posts but you can't see theirs, and there is a good chance they will block you if you get into any kind of long argument where they feel personally insulted that they are being disagreed with. Once you are blocked you cannot block them, so they will always see your posts but you can't see their their posts and there is no recourse for this, it is just is, forever. So you end up proactively blocking people so that can't happen.

Someone needs to analyze this as game theory and write a paper on it. It is so poorly thought out and implemented that it would be funny if reddit didn't have a monopoly on long form written discussions on a lot of topics.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by felipeerias »

miki123211 wrote: post #160
bragr wrote: post #135

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Those are all issues as well, but brigading is absolutely a thing.

Blocking doesn't really fix the brigading problem, regardless of whether people need to log out or not. Most X users will just post a screenshot of the tweet, breaking accessibility in the process and disassociating the original author from the thread against their will. This isn't always a good thing, as it leads to people being surprised by crowds of strangers suddenly screaming at them and not being able to see th…

> post a screenshot of the tweet, breaking accessibility in the process and disassociating the original author from the thread against their will.

I'm surprised that the platform does not do ORC on text images by default.

And it wouldn't be hard to check if a particular image looks like a tweet and, if it does, find out the exact match.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by seadan83 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #83
simion314 wrote: post #77

I am not an X user, I remember Elon making a lot of noise about bots, did Elon fixed the bot issues? Or all that noise was an attempt to get a discount.

> all that noise was an attempt to get a discount Was he complaining about bots before he signed? Genuinely can't remember.

IIRC he tried to back out of the deal under the premise that twitter over-represented its value by under-reporting bots. He stated something like he wanted proof of non-bot users before proceeding. When taken to court, the judge ruled he could get more info from twitter. I don't remember what came next, I think elon quietly dropped the point and the next set of rulings held him to the already signed purchase agreement.

Citations: "Elon Musk says Twitter deal 'cannot move forward' until he has clarity on fake account numbers" [1]

"Musk was seeking information on essentially all of Twitter's account reviews and actions. Judge McCormick dubbed that request "absurdly broad," noting Twitter has already agreed to produce a "tremendous amount information.""[2]

[1] https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/05/17/elo...

[2] https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-scores-half-win-ab...

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by EnigmaFlare »

Arainach wrote: post #237
EnigmaFlare wrote: post #221

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How about if you're publicly saying things that offend a whole community, take personal responsibility for that and accept whatever offensive things they say about you in response. People have this dumb idea that everyone else should respect them for what they say in public but they have the right to disrespect others. If you can't handle that, stop saying inflammatory things to the whole world.

"Communities" are easy to offend, especially with bad actors lying and stoking flames. Communities have given death threats to college students who made bad plays in sports games. https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/ncaa-1-3-star-athletes-receive... There's a long-established pattern linking bullying and suicide, and huge amounts of tougher-to-quantify lesser damage done. Giving people mechanisms to slow and reduce bullyin…

I'm not talking about bullying, where the person being offended is the only one who suffers from it, but rather things like saying "X is false" which offends believers of X and they retaliate with insults. Yes, people get angry when you offend them or even just disagree with them. If you don't want to cause that, don't offend them. Unfortunately a lot of people are so arrogant about their own beliefs, they feel they have the right to both offend people who disagree and be protected from being offended in response.

Not saying the people making death threats are innocent and of course the law should try to stop them, but often it's not powerful enough so people who don't want that unfortunately have to keep quiet or be anonymous when they want to step on the toes of death-threat-happy communities.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by nsxwolf »

I've always fundamentally disagreed with the idea of being able to block individuals from seeing the things you broadcast to the world.

Imagine if TV or radio or newspapers could do this because they didn't like something you said or did.

This is touched on in the Black Mirror episode "White Christmas". It's just creepy and an abuse of technology.

If you want to communicate privately, then do so.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by EnigmaFlare »

saagarjha wrote: post #229
EnigmaFlare wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about if you're publicly saying things that offend a whole community, take personal responsibility for that and accept whatever offensive things they say about you in response. People have this dumb idea that everyone else should respect them for what they say in public but they have the right to disrespect others. If you can't handle that, stop saying inflammatory things to the whole world.

Have you ever dealt with harassment? Do you think someone should take responsibility for posts that cause them to be harassed?

Yes and yes. It's called picking your battles. If you're not equipped to stand up for yourself or have anyone else do that for you, you're going to get hurt when you insult someone else's beliefs they they've linked to their identity or even their purpose in life.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by anticensor »

wannacboatmovie wrote: post #37
silisili wrote: post #27

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If the previous Elon/X rumors are true(a big if, perhaps), I feel like the hidden agenda here is more likely that someone blocked Musk and Musk is upset that he can no longer see the posts.

It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses. It's his site, they would code up whatever he asked, X is no longer design by committee. Remember when the Reddit CEO/owner/whatever was hand editing the dat…

> It's quite foolish to assume that they couldn't quietly code up a "God mode" for Elon's account, or assume that isn't already in place, and instead had to create a feature to roll out to 350M users where Elon had an account no different than the unwashed masses.

Maybe they want to keep the code simple or ready for immediate open sourcing if desired.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by zzo38computer »

I do not use The X Formerly Known As Twitter, but if I write a message that is intended to be public (regardless of what service it is on), I would intend that people I had blocked are still able to see the message (and make copies of it) if they wish; I would block them because I don't want to see their messages and I do not want to allow them to send messages to me. I would also not want the number of users who blocked someone to have an effect on moderation; if something is enough abuse to be reported that should be done separately than blocking, I think.

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by saagarjha »

EnigmaFlare wrote: post #276
saagarjha wrote: post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you ever dealt with harassment? Do you think someone should take responsibility for posts that cause them to be harassed?

Yes and yes. It's called picking your battles. If you're not equipped to stand up for yourself or have anyone else do that for you, you're going to get hurt when you insult someone else's beliefs they they've linked to their identity or even their purpose in life.

Some people tie their beliefs to rejecting your identity. What are you going to do in that case? Stop being gay? Not put pictures of yourself online?

Re: Twitter/X will let people you've blocked see your posts

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Post by Nathanba »

yifanl wrote: post #140
heraldgeezer wrote: post #137

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>This is just one more example of Twitter going out of their way to work against the best interests of their users. Why does it matter? If I block people in a Discord server THEY can still see what I type. Why does it matter? I have really come to understand that some Twitter users see Twitter as their own private garden somehow and do not realize that anyone can see your posts... So somehow it becomes uncomfortable…

Are you seriously asking why you shouldn't make users uncomfortable with your product?

they can use block
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