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Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Famous quote that if you sacrifice freedom for security, you will get neither.

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Not only you're responding with an ad-hominem, which is blatantly bad enough; but you're doing it against Benjamin Franklin? One of the most influential thinkers of his time who has contributed to the liberty of way more people than you ever will?

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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> This is an insanely big developing story. For people in tech

Telegram is used by hundreds of millions in Europe and Middle East

Yep, and I have yet to see evidence of this being a huge story for those people. He's no Messi or Bieber or Swift.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Well of you provide a service and it's knowingly used by criminals and you just implement features to benefit the criminal activity but make no effort to curb it. Yes, your an accomplice.

Would you arrest a road worker because the highway onramp they just repaved was used by bank robbers to flee the scene of the crime?

If the road worker built features that specifically provided an oversized benefit to the bank robbing community in general, you’d definitely investigate the worker or construction company

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Funny story - there were some protests in my country some months ago. We're a semi-autocratic country on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. During the protests, the government used masked 'civilians,' or what you'd call 'titushkis,' to beat up activists at their home addresses or elsewhere in public. We were also getting calls from fake numbers on our personal numbers with threats. A channel was created on Telegra…

Ukraine? That’s the only context I’ve read the term titushkis. But those were used against Euromaiden protesters and with what happened since, plus the given n month timelines, that just doesn’t make sense.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Funny story - there were some protests in my country some months ago. We're a semi-autocratic country on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. During the protests, the government used masked 'civilians,' or what you'd call 'titushkis,' to beat up activists at their home addresses or elsewhere in public. We were also getting calls from fake numbers on our personal numbers with threats. A channel was created on Telegra…

What you call moderation is also a tool dictatorships use to censor people. It goes both ways.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Funny story - there were some protests in my country some months ago. We're a semi-autocratic country on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. During the protests, the government used masked 'civilians,' or what you'd call 'titushkis,' to beat up activists at their home addresses or elsewhere in public. We were also getting calls from fake numbers on our personal numbers with threats. A channel was created on Telegra…

In case anybody was wondering, OP is talking about Georgia the country.

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Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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The problem is not with communication with the outer world. The problem with other messengers is that everything you type there is monitored by CIA/NSA and Ukraine has access to this information. Telegram right now is the only secure messenger that doesn't leak them data on Russian citizens.

and the Russian govt has carte blanche access to Telegram. Russia invaded their sovereign neighbour Ukraine who the f cares about their forums for messaging. yawn.

Any source for this?

He hasn’t lived in Russia for a decade. From what I understand the reason he left is because he refused to give them access. He’d prob be arrested there at the airport as well.

I’m guessing you’re in SMS-land (USofA) where telegram (nor WhatsApp) never really caught on? Because telegram is HUGE outside of the US and China, including Ukraine.

Re: Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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post #258

Funny story - there were some protests in my country some months ago. We're a semi-autocratic country on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. During the protests, the government used masked 'civilians,' or what you'd call 'titushkis,' to beat up activists at their home addresses or elsewhere in public. We were also getting calls from fake numbers on our personal numbers with threats. A channel was created on Telegra…

Ukraine? That’s the only context I’ve read the term titushkis. But those were used against Euromaiden protesters and with what happened since, plus the given n month timelines, that just doesn’t make sense.

Georgia. They used same tactics, so that's why I also call them titushkis.
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