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No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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I think I see where he's coming from, and it makes sense to me. But where is the evidence that expectations have changed for young men? A paragraph or two with examples would be useful. It is of course a bit nebulous to try to define "expectations on young men" so I'm willing to go with some sort of essay that presents the evidence.

You can poll young women for what they require of young men to date them. Plenty of content of that on YouTube.

It's not nebulous.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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> Instead of encouraging healthier diets which have lots of follow-on nutritional and long-term medical benefits This has been done for a while and mostly doesn't work.

Cool statement. Why not?

Because humans (like most animals) are optimized at a deep level to seek high-energy foods, and neither encouragement or shame are powerful enough to override that.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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What I took away from this article is that many low-income men have no real interest in being fathers or raising children. Yet, they tend to produce children anyway. We should focus on making birth control more accessible, instead of trying to make people take responsibility for raising children they obviously don't want. That guy who spends all his money on weed and booze while his kids go hungry? He should have got…

Most doctors refuse to perform sterilization procedures on young people, at least until after they have had children. After all, what if they change their minds? My girlfriend couldn’t get hers done until she was over 30.

Curious if the doctors are actually just proxies for insurance providers in this case?

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

#275

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A county in USA

Oops. Yes, reading is fundamental! May I ask where in the USA?

Lots of such counties exist. Most of Alaska qualifies, as do parts of TN, NM, AZ, etc. should be a list of some you can pull up and start there if you're looking to do same.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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> Wealth is generally understood to mean how much assets you have accumulated ...by accountants. "Wealth" as used by most people is related to quality of life. It even shows up in the phrase "house poor" where maybe someone has great net assets but cannot live comfortable life due to the drain of the house. Wealth is not money.

Wealth is composed of many factors of which one is money, but you need money to have wealth. Therefore, wealth is money.

This is true, but the converse isn't: you don't need wealth to have money. Just use your credit card instead.

A borrowed dollar spends just as well as a saved or earned one, which is why many confuse spending with wealth.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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Damn. This is the first I’m hearing I wasn’t allowed to have a job AND play PS5. I’ll have to rectify this at once. What are the rising standards though? Not beating your wife?

Being emotionally available, participating in chores, providing a comfortable lifestyle while not working all the time, being reasonably well-read and good conversationalist, etc. Have you not noticed how much more we expect from men as partners? NB I’m not saying we shouldn’t expect more from them. I’m saying many are seeing the list of demands, and opting out of even trying

Yeah wow that seems tough /eyeroll

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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Most doctors refuse to perform sterilization procedures on young people, at least until after they have had children. After all, what if they change their minds? My girlfriend couldn’t get hers done until she was over 30.

This decision really needs to be removed from the hands of doctors, as long as there is no physical risk to the patient.

You think doctors should be forced to perform procedures they don’t want to perform?

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

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Born too late to enjoy exponential asset growth. Born too soon to see the true environmental impact of the asset growth. Lost generation, can I just get some drugs to cope please, my computer job is making me lose my humanity ;( Just kidding it’s all good :)

Just wait til you lose your computer job.

Re: No one expects young men to do anything and they respond by doing nothing (2022)

#280

We didn't want young men to do anything. We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders, and that meant moving factories (where these young men's grandfathers were working 60 years ago) overseas while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. We got the shareholder returns. Too bad that can't buy a functional society for people born after 1980.

> We wanted ever-increasing returns for shareholders And ever-decreasing prices for consumers. Don’t forget that! Free trade results in more goods for everyone, by enabling different places to focus on what they do best. > while doing nothing on the whole to retrain the workforce. I completely agree that some more attention needs to be paid to retraining. The answer to disappearing jobs is to prepare folks for new on…

> And ever-decreasing prices for consumers

This is more of a hope than a reality. The trickle down economics logic. “We promise it’ll be good.”

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