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Ladybird Web Browser becomes a non-profit with $1M from GitHub Founder

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Post by unclenoriega »

guappa wrote: post #225
flykespice wrote: post #198

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That is a complete nonsensical claim & willful attempt at spreading misinformation: Permissive licenses doesn't grants you less freedom than GPL, infact it grants you more because the user also has the freedom to modify source code without being enforced to make it public. Companies copying the codebase to their propietary ones won't automatically strip right of users, licenses don't work like that, the original code…

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Who are the slaves in this analogy?

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Post by account42 »

freedomben wrote: post #249
paulcole wrote: post #183

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> but Discord? In this day and age? What’s your recommended alternative?

Matrix is a wonderful alternative

Better but a the real alternative is what we had before: publicly visible forums, mailing lists with an archive, etc. I'm not going to sign up for your discussion group without being able to get a feel for the community first.

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Post by account42 »

coldpie wrote: post #192
awesomekling wrote: post #130

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We will never charge our users, or attempt to monetize them in any way. Our nonprofit will run on unrestricted donations only.

I wish you luck, more competition in the browser space is sorely needed. But please, please spend more time thinking about your finances. The surface of planet "Startups That Will Figure Out A Business Model Later" is like 99.9% graveyard. You're going to be asking people to depend on your software for an extremely important part of their lives. If you don't have a path to sustainability, you're going to do a lot of…

A non-profit foundation taking donations is a "business" plan and IMO the only one that has a chance of building a true user agent in the long run. That doesn't mean that it is guaranteed to succeed but I don't think there is a better funding option thatwon't come with conflicting incentives.

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Post by account42 »

tomaytotomato wrote: post #70
yuvadam wrote: post #10

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How does Ladybird avoid Mozilla's fate? How can it be a long term sustainable project?

Its easy to avoid the fate of Mozilla, don't get involved and distracted by lots of side projects. https://wiki.mozilla.org/Past-projects

It does seem the apple doesn't fall far from the money tree.

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Post by account42 »

metalloid wrote: post #214
imp0cat wrote: post #73

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Look, I am as annoyed as you are with the constant barrage of "rewritten in Rust" projects, but if Mozilla did not try various other projects that are not browser, there would be no Rust.

Instead of rebuild 'everything' in Rust, we just can use AI to optimize C/C++. We don't need another programming language.

Wow you actually managed to make me hate the inane "why not rewrite it in rust" commenters a tiny bit less.

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Post by account42 »

Aeolun wrote: post #24
yuvadam wrote: post #10

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How does Ladybird avoid Mozilla's fate? How can it be a long term sustainable project?

Ask for money from the start?

And don't ignore or intentionally alienate the users who might be inclined to donate.

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Post by fsflover »

satyanash wrote: post #127

No talk of the license on the frontpage. Visiting the GitHub repo tells me it is 2-clause BSD license. It's high time we had a GPLv3 web browser, otherwise, this risks the same fate as the rest of the browsers with proprietary forks. This of course comes at the cost of not being able to support non-free parts of the web standard such as DRM.

> This of course comes at the cost of not being able to support non-free parts of the web standard such as DRM.

LGPLv3 would solve that, wouldn't it?

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Post by fsflover »

greenyies wrote: post #128

I'm just not trusting a small browser dev team. The risk of exploits is too high

If you're really this serious about security, you should be using Qubes OS. Then, a browser choice stops being important, since the strong isolation would prevent an exploit to do any damage. And disposable VMs allow to do insecure staff without any risk.
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